Replaceing halyard

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Nov 26, 2009
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oday 25 Munice Sailing Club
I am thinking about replacing the cable halyards on our O’DAY25 with rope. People have advised me to use anywhere from ½ to ¼ inch rope. I realize that I will have to change the sheaves, but I need to select a rope dia. first. Also what style sheave should I use? We do all of our sailing on inland lakes and reservoirs.
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Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
I am thinking about replacing the cable halyards on our O’DAY25 with rope. People have advised me to use anywhere from ½ to ¼ inch rope. I realize that I will have to change the sheaves, but I need to select a rope dia. first. Also what style sheave should I use? We do all of our sailing on inland lakes and reservoirs.
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If I had an O'Day 25 with wire/rope halyard, I'd replace it too. What I would do is take the mast down and lay it on something that will provide good working height. 5/16" STA SET X is what I would go with along with a metal sheave that will take it.
A friend of mine had a 1975 O'Day 25 with a wire/rope main and the rope came down and through a cheek block near the foot of the mast. That means you have to pull up on the halyard to raise the Mainsail and I don't like that. The Jib sheet on my mast came through this way and I hated it. I have internal halyards on my O'Day 222 and the Jib halyard came out the bottom of the tabernacle through a built in sheave.
I don't know how your mast is set up, but my Z-Spar mast has a mast winch that can be used to take up on both halyards.
When my a new mast set up with a Kenyon stainless steel hinge plate, the rigger cut an exit hole in the mast for the Jib Halyard and he installed a clam cleat below the new exit plate and a little to one side.
This worked out great for me and even though I no longer use the Jib Halyard much except for raising my mast, My Main Halyard is set up the same way and it works great.
I just raise the Mainsail and take about three wraps around the mast winch and snub the halyard off in the clam cleat above the winch after getting it up tight. The open clam cleat allows me to hold what I've got, pull the wraps off the winch, and cleat the halyard off on a horn cleat below the winch.
I think that this is a great system that can work on external or internal halyards and it really worth looking into. 5/16" halyard is big enough for my mast and it's probably large enough for yours. Whatever thickness you decide on, you need to take into consideration the thickness of the eye splice for the halyard shackle in relation to the width of mast head sheave opening. This also applies to the Jib block sheave.
The sheave pin in my mast head was pressed in at the factory and I couldn't use it when I replaced my sheave so I re-drilled the mast head for a stainless steel bolt and nut. I also had to use a stainless steel bushing for the sheave to ride on. I would have liked to have got a metal sheave but Rudy at D & R Marine didn't have one in the size needed for my mast head. http://www.drmarine.com/ He may have one that will fit your mast head. He could also answer any questions you my have concerning the length and thickness and supply it to you.
Joe
 

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Nov 26, 2009
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oday 25 Munice Sailing Club
:)Joe thanks for the great advice. I had originally thought that I would use 5/16”STA SET X, so I was glad to see that you agreed with me. The use and the placement of the cleat is a good idea it gives you a third hand. The pictures were also a great help. As far as the sheave goes I will try to use metal. I will also check out D&R.
 
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I think 5/16 will work fine, but my guess is 3/8 is a better size for that boat, but make sure it fits in the sheave you end up with.
 
Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
:)Joe thanks for the great advice. I had originally thought that I would use 5/16”STA SET X, so I was glad to see that you agreed with me. The use and the placement of the cleat is a good idea it gives you a third hand. The pictures were also a great help. As far as the sheave goes I will try to use metal. I will also check out D&R.
Mike,
My mast is 27' long and years ago I bought some new halyards for it at West Marine and without thinking I picked a thicker braid than the 5/16" that was supposed to be on there. I was forever having problems getting my sails down. Then I went to Rudy's store and brought my halyards with me and he sold me two 5/16". I bought a Delrin sheave, bushing and the bolt off him one day when I brought my mast head fitting down there.
I even replaced the Jib sheave block on my mast with a stainless steel Dwyer sheave with a metal sheave.
One neat little trick that I picked up on SaltySailors.com is to add a couple of drops of dish washing detergent to each of my sail slides and what a difference that makes when I raise and drop the Mainsail. After that first rain, the track gets washed out clean and I add a little more of this lube to the slides again.
As for the open clam cleats; you can't beat them. Years ago I mounted a large open cleat behind each of my Gennie winches on the combing and it's the greatest way I've found for snubbing off the sheets. Two other YC members have adopted this idea and they like it. I picked up that idea back in the mid 1980s from a magazine called "Small Boat Journal" which went out of publication in the 1990s I think, but a few of their writers are now working for "Small Craft Advisor", one of my favorite boat magazines today.
Joe
 
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