H25 outboard question

[tewlman]

my H25 currently has an 8hp2 stroke outboard but I recently found a very low priced Montgomery Ward 10hp motor that looks to be in great shape. the MW motor had an electric start at one time, was thinking it would be cool feature to have...but, is this motor to large for my boat?

thanks

steve

 

[Ed Schenck]

Really, Montgomery Ward?! That might have antique value. But if it is a good buy and a good running motor then it would be fine for your H25. Is the shaft right for your boat? Suprised if MW had a long shaft motor. Someone on here will know who made that motor. I would guess Outboard Marine who made Evinrude and Johnson.

 

[tewlman]

LOL, yep, Montgomery Ward! I am guessing a 70's vintage motor, that only puts it a few years older than the 8hp currently on my boat. It "appears" to be about the same length but I would have to measure it before I go any further.

 

[MrUnix]

Is there anything wrong with your current outboard or is this just a 'would be kinda neat' purchase? It may be difficult to find specific parts for that MW motor, like the electric starter But if it's going for a really low 'can't pass it up' price.. then go for it. You can always sell one of 'em after you figure out which one you like best.

Cheers,
Brad

 

[tewlman]

thanks for the input Brad, I was thinking the same thing. $100 for the MW, I think that is a good price for its condition.

 

[Tom J]

my H25 currently has an 8hp2 stroke outboard but I recently found a very low priced Montgomery Ward 10hp motor that looks to be in great shape. the MW motor had an electric start at one time, was thinking it would be cool feature to have...but, is this motor to large for my boat?

thanks

steve

Not too large for the boat. I had a 9.9 Yamaha 4-stroke on my 23' O'Day, and it worked fine. Actually, it had more power than I needed, but there were times when that extra power came in handy. By the way, once you go to 4-stroke, you'll never go back to 2-stroke! The MW sounds like a good buy, though, especially if you are mechaniclly inclined and can maintain it yourself.

 

[DianaOfBurlington]

H25 OB motor spec

The difference between a '9.9-HP' and a '10-HP' outboard is that one is called a '9.9-HP' outboard and the other one is honest. '9.9' is a legal way around a 10-HP prohibition on many inland lakes. Nowadays you nearly never see a '10-HP' outboard any more.

It was once true that Johnson/Evinrude and Mercury 9.9-HP motors and their corresponding 15-HP motors were the same blocks; the 9.9's had detuned carbs. More recently I did some research while working at WM and found that the new 9.9 and 15 Mercurys are entirely different blocks, so that's no longer true; and of course most of them are fuel-injected now.

I know several people with 15s on their 26- and smaller boats; and they're fine. For a retractable outboard bracket the usual concern is for weight, not thrust. Most newer 4-strokes are too heavy, like by 33% in some cases, compared to older 2-strokes. Your MW is likely a 2-stroke and if it's enough under the weight limit of your outboard bracket it's fine. My ancient Garelick OB bracket, original to the boat, is rated at like 88 lbs or something. This necessitates a 2-stroke and prohibits a 4-stroke. I'd love to have 15 HP as the H25 is not particularly light compared to 'trailerable' boats of the same period; but I just got an Evinrude 9.9 2-stroke, long-shaft, and that's like the perfect motor for it. An 8 or 7.5 (like the excellent old Evinrude Yachtwin, if you can get one with long shaft) is absolutely as little as I would recommend.

If the OB bracket is in the original location (mine is not) a 20" shaft (= 1 extension) is absolutely mandatory. An anti-cavitation plate, like the Doel-Fin, can be of some help. Powering in through an inlet with two guys lowering sail on the foredeck will bring the prop too close to the surface for comfort.

I would advise anyone with an H25 to have both electric start and remote controls as it's a nightmare having to reach down and control the motor over that transom!