Sailing on the Millpond

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Nov 22, 2008
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Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
We Maine men tend to think of Long Island Sound as kind of a play sailing area with light winds, little fog, soft, and forgiving shores. You have to come Downeast for the real thing. Well, let me tell you, having just come 30 miles from Millford to Stamford, arriving just as solid 20 gusting to 25 was bumping up 5 knots; my growing awareness that this can be as challenging and unforgiving body of water as the Pine Tree State became as solid as the ledges and islands that shelter us Mainers from much of the ocean’s fury.

I was trying to sneak in ahead of the weather to accept the offer of a yacht club berth where I could wait out a few days of bad weather visiting my good friend, mentor, and fellow “Points East” contributor Bernie Weiss. Another hour further and I might be ordering a new dinghy instead of writing this.

20 gusting 25 downwind isn’t a big deal where I come from but the way the seas run up in the funnel of the sound with the tide running hard under them made it as rugged as anything I’ve seen up in Nova Scotia or the Bay of Fundy. There were some minutes towards the end that reminded me of running breaking inlets.

I’ve been getting beat up all week. I really needed to get out of Mystic, pleasant as it was. They say the temptations of the shore are more of a hazard to the sailor than the sea and it’s true. My week of meals there probably represent more risk to me in the next couple years than any wind and wave I will encounter and the damage to my pocketbook about equal. Sure, I could exercise restraint but when that restaurant is right there whispering, “Hey, sailor.”…

So, I went down the river to try and get around the corner to where I could accept a dinner invitation but found the conditions rather reasonable for making much needed progress westward. I phoned my regrets and kept on. Rounding Black Point just past Niantic Bay, I was suddenly confronted with the reality of the weather report, about the reverse of today. I ran back into the bay and spent and uncomfortable afternoon and night with a stern anchor out to reduced the rolling just enough that I could sleep, a little bit.

Conditions moderated the next day and it was merely a long, grinding, slog to windward under power that brought me to Milford. Nice, but slightly strange town. I docked at what looked like a town dock after which I could read the sign that said basically, “If you are not a Milford taxpayer and you so much as put a foot or line on this dock before calling the harbormaster, you may be fined.” That made me feel nice and welcome.

I then called the number and got a nice lady at the harbor commission who said they were closed, there was no one to collect any fees, and I was welcome to dock anywhere and use the water and power. I figured it was thus my duty to leave some money in town so I again answered the siren call of the restaurants and afterwards spent a very quiet and comfortable night.

Events following my pre-dawn departure bring me to pass onto all my fellow Mainers this bit of wisdom, just because someone you meet has spent their whole life sailing only in Long Island Sound it doesn’t mean they are not a sailor you should respect.
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Your experience reminds me of something we Great Lakes sailors hear all the time. "The waves were only six feet?! We sail in ten-footers here all the time." "Here" usually meaning the far coast. Huge difference between wallowing between waves that have a ten second period and six-footers with a half second between.
 
Feb 10, 2004
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Hunter 40.5 Warwick, RI
Roger,

Your post made me kind-of snicker. I sailed out of the New London, CT to Westerly, RI area in eastern LIS and Fishers Island Sound for about 20 years before moving to Narragansett Bay, RI. And in LIS I have had my share of getting the snot pounded out of me. Prevailing SW winds and counter currents can really churn up some impressive chop.

I took a powerboat friend out sailing one time and it was a rough sail. Our mainsail was even wet from flying waves about eight feet up from the deck. Upon arrival back on the hard, he commented in my ship's log that the sail was exhilarating and he just loved the 1-2 foot waves.

I said to him, "What do you mean 1-2 foot waves?" He replied that he only counts wave height as the depth of the green water coming over the bow.......

Yikes!
 
Dec 2, 1999
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Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Your experience reminds me of something we Great Lakes sailors hear all the time. "The waves were only six feet?! We sail in ten-footers here all the time." "Here" usually meaning the far coast. Huge difference between wallowing between waves that have a ten second period and six-footers with a half second between.
Ed: Maybe you missed some excitement over on Lake Michigan (25 footers). Yikes, those are big waves in a 22' boat!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44959018/ns/weather/
 
Apr 8, 2010
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Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
So I ran down to west marine to return some unneeded purchases (first time I think I've ever walked out with more money than when I went in), and decided to go down to the nearby docks for a walk and what do I spot? A very nice looking Endeavour 32 sitting there at the dock. Whoever owns this boat clearly cares about it. :)
 

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Wait! I think I know that boat. Is it from Maine?
 

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Jun 27, 2006
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Tartan 27' 1967 Nyack, NY
Yup. LI Sound can be a mill pond. It can also be anything but.

I was on a friends 50' Beneteau a few Novermbers ago when we had gusts up to 50 knots (confirmed by weather buoys) that turned the Sound into a sea of white horses with nearly 6' waves of short period. Thankfully there was a Perkins 70 odd HP engine running as we made our way west into the maelstrom. It was an experience I was glad to live through and hope not to repeat again, even on a 50' sailboat.

The Chesapeake can become pretty uncomfortable in a big blow as as can Delaware Bay, assuming these waters are in your future.

I'd still think that the waters around Fundy could be worse on a bad day then LI Sound given the tidal range, fetch and accompanying currents there.

I think you will find several municipal and even commercial establishments closed or preparing to mothball for the winter as you head south. There are nearly 24 moorings near me about 1 mile up the Hudson that are operated by NY City Parks dept. and they have definitely closed 'operations' by now. Of course, there is no guarantee that one would not be asked to leave by the NY Harbor patrol if one happened to pick up one of those moorings. Then again, if there is no one to accept your money hopefully there is nobody to call the harbor patrol in the first place.
I'm quite certain that the 79th St. boat basin is still in operation as there are still boats moored on the river. It is about 4 miles up river and purported to be prone to a lot of wakes and current.
If cheap dockage is what you are after then plan on arriving late and leaving early (City Island and even Liberty Landing come to mind here).
 

CalebD

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Jun 27, 2006
1,479
Tartan 27' 1967 Nyack, NY
Thank you for the validation.
As if you needed any. Pfft.

At least I did not mention hurricane Gloria back in 1985: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Gloria
where the equivalent of small ocean waves were breaking on shore in Hempstead Harbor where I stood on shore watching. Hurricanes are not our normal weather pattern here though.

Some folks in Bayville, LI have their basements flooded by h'cane Irene and other n'or easters fairly regularly. It is a beautiful area but parts are very close to sea level. I happen to like Center Island Park for it's LI Sound beach.
 

UPSGUY

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Jan 9, 2011
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Catalina 22 Bayville NY
Add me to the list of bayville residents with flooded basements.
 
Aug 5, 2011
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Victoria 19' teak catboat South Bristol, Maine
Just catching up on your journaling Roger. Wishing you fair weather as you sail south.
Always, Chris
 
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