Stuck Oil Filter

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Ducati

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Nov 19, 2008
380
Boatless Boatless Annapolis
I was told that you should only hand tighten an oil filter.

If I had only known this info before I put the thing on. I'm expecting a battle to get it off when I do my end of season oil change. Any suggestions on to remove it without doing damage to the diesel or my knuckles?
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Large "strap wrench".

Next time BE SURE to wipe a bit of oil on the filter's rubber gasket.
 

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Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Use a strap wrench. If you cannot remove it with the wrench, then you can take a large screw driver and punch it through the can. That usually does the job. Be sure to have some oilsorb rags under the filter, 'cause it will make a mess.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,362
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Don't know who told you that. Hand tight for the Racor primary fuel filter, but you need a strap wrench to tighten the oil filter. You do NOT want an oil filter falling off your engine. Other stuff above: very good advice.
 
Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
When changing any filter, make sure the gasket is still stuck to the filter when removed and not still on the block. Two gaskets make quite a mess when one slips out of round and creates a gap for the oil to gush from.
 

Ducati

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Nov 19, 2008
380
Boatless Boatless Annapolis
Don't know who told you that. Hand tight for the Racor primary fuel filter, but you need a strap wrench to tighten the oil filter.

Yup, I did that. I used a strap wrench to put it on and I even put some oil on the gasket.
However this time when I purchased the new Volvo oil filter I noticed a picture on it telling you not to use a oil filter wrench.

Anyhow, I'm expecting a fight to get it off.

Thanks for all of your help + comments.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
Tool ?????

Not a problem use any type wrench to twist it off,big or small on only the filter to help it start to turn and I have used many different auto tools to do so and yes only hand tight but will all your might real tight for sure will work.
Nick
 
Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
I hand tighten when putting it on, then again after the engine warms up and rechecking the oil level- and checking for leaks.
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,244
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
2/3rds to 3/4 turns

most oil filters recomend that when the gasket touches the surface that you tighten it 2/3rd to 3/4 turn more ...if you over thighten them the gasket could become warped and then leak .......

regards

woody
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
A large pipe wrench may help or not.
 
Jun 2, 2004
3,654
Hunter 23.5 Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida
Bet it Comes Off With no Problem

I change my own oil on everything I have ever owned. Generally I probably tighten a bit more than called for and I can usually grab the oil filter and remove it by hand (unless it is particularly hot). Have a good oil filter wrench and make sure and deliberate contact it will spin right off.
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,659
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
This May Be a Bit of an Oversimplification ............

......................... but wouldn't it be a good idea to loosen up the filter just a little bit now before it really cooks onto the mounting surface after a full season of use ?
 
Dec 2, 2003
1,637
Hunter 376 Warsash, England --
For many years on several old cars I tightened up the oil filter until it "felt right". This usually meant using a strap wrench. I never had a moment,s trouble taking them off and never had a leaker either!

Then I bought a boat and learned? that it only needs hand pressure.

Even today I am suspicious of a leak every time I only hand tighten a filter because the rubber gaskets are pretty hard material and need some pressure to create an effective seal.
The truth is it is only a mechanical seal and there is a 'right' amount of compression required.
I feel this is hand tight - but just about as tight as you can get it without using a wrench.
And then watch it for the first few hours of running - and give it a little tweak now and again - but not to actually move it but just to make sure it won't move.
And keep on worrying!
 

rfrye1

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Jun 15, 2004
589
Hunter H376 San Diego
To Steve Dion........

Yes a large screw driver "usually" does the job when all else fails. BUT I can tell you from personal experience, when I was much younger on my car, when you get to this point and the Large Screwdriver fails, you are "SCREWED". Now you got a huge hole in your filter and its still stuck. My "personal experience" cost me a tow truck and a mechanic to get my filter off! Boy did I learn a good lesson as a 20 yr old college student!!
I find a tough filter will be undone with a large pair on Channel Locks, grip down as close to the base (engine side) as possible. Dont squeeze too hard and bend the filter, but just grip it tight and turn. Same thing with the band wrench, get it down low near the base before you pull hard on it.

Good luck.
Bob
 

MrUnix

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Mar 24, 2010
626
Hunter 23 Gainesville, FL
Engine Maintenance 101

I can't believe this topic has generated so much discussion, considering it should have been one of the first things learned about vehicle maintenance! I don't think I have ever seen an oil filter that didn't have instructions printed on the side.. 1) ensure old gasket didn't stick in place, 2) put a film of NEW engine oil on NEW oil filter gasket, 3) twist on until gasket makes contact, 4) turn an additional 3/4 - 1 full turn. Just for grins, I went out in the garage and looked at some of the oil filters I have.. Fram, Purolator, Bosch.. all have the instructions printed on them, and all say 3/4 to 1 full turn after contact. That by the way is just about the limit of what you can do by hand, so no need for a wrench when installing.

As for removal, all the methods already discussed will work.. some better than others. I have 5 or 6 different oil filter wrenches in the garage, and have used the screwdriver method as well. Most of the time, it's just a matter of how much clearance you have that determines the method. The best I have found for tight places is the one that uses a standard 3/8 socket wrench and has three spring loaded fingers that grip tighter as you turn. Harbor Freight has them for about $8. Soft-strap wrenches also work well if you have the space.. if not, the rigid strap with swivel handle types can usually get in where the soft strap ones can't. The pliers type as well as channel locks will work, but you need enough room to turn them. Save the screwdriver for method of last resort!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxSya1YNMKI

Cheers,
Brad
 
Jun 2, 2004
3,654
Hunter 23.5 Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida
Screwdriver, Absolutly as a Last Resort

I went to help somone after they could not get their oil filter off. I think it was a Chevy with a 327 because the filter was straight up and down anyway he could not get it with a filter wrench and went with the srewdriver method. The screw driver ended up ripping through the sides of the filter and we ended up using a chisel to get the base of the filter off. He chaged his filter more often after that.

Make sure the rubber "O" ring is on the filter when you remove it. I had one stick to the engine once. The seal of the new filter next to the old seal held for a few minutes then blew 3 1/2 quarts of oil onto the garage floor in nothing flat.
 

Alan

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Jun 2, 2004
4,174
Hunter 35.5 LI, NY
Sorry Stu, I have to disagree with your statement about needing a wrench to install an oil filter. There is no need for any wrench to INSTALL but a strap wrench is the one way to REMOVE the filter. An oil filter cap wrench is another alternative. Most oil filters are usually marked with "Hand Tighten Only" or "3/4 to 1 Turn After Gasket Contact". Using the wrench produces the problem that Ducati may now face with removal.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
Hand TIGHT

And when ever you check the oil level check the filter with your hand too,I check my oil level often.
 
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