Did the O'Day sailboats come with the transom ready to accept an outboard even when the inboard was standard. I am looking to purchase a 1976 27 that has an outboard that had an inboard OEM...wondering if the boat came stock with the outboard option standard?
1976 O'Day27 in/out board question
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Let rephrase the question...Will the 1976 27 transom support a 100 lb. honda 9.9 hp outboard with modification?
Chances are that this guy never had to strengthen the core on the inside transom nor did he feel it was necessary as long as he could beef it up by using a piece of plywood for a back up plate.
One of our YC members did this to a 1974 O'Day 27 that originally had a two stroke Sail Drive engine with issues.
He mounted a regular two stroke outboard bracket on the transom for an 8 HP Johnson long shaft that he had. Of course a large four stroke outboard on a bracket built for four strokes can stove in a sailboat transom if the inner core is rotted and weak. This actually happened to at least one guy on this forum that I know of.
Someone over accelerated the outboard while it was in gear and the torque that it created stove the transom in, luckily above the waterline. Oddly enough the two stroke engine bracket came out unscathed.
I think that it all depends on the thickness of the transom and the condition of the core. If it is adequate, then you could get away with a plywood backup plate.
My friend also had an O'Day 25 keel/centerboard sloop and decided that the O'Day 27 was going to take a lot more money and work than he wanted to put into it so he sold the boat. He told me that the 27 was a fast boat and could out sail his O'Day 25.
I just changed the engine bracket on my boat the other day. A friend of mine gave me a bracket that is very similar to the one that came with my boat. It's only two years old and it appears stronger and more stable than my old bracket. If I ever need to buy a new four stroke outboard, I will definitely need to go with a heavy duty four stroke bracket and use a stronger and better back up plate that is inside the transom right now.
I would make sure that the transom on this boat is sound and there is a decent backup plate for the bracket. Also, some individuals have been known to cut corners and use regular steel bolts. As the old saying goes, "Let the buyer beware." You could tell pretty easy with a magnet. Good luck!
Joe
Given the flex I see in the outside face of the transom on my boat, I'd imagine you'd need some additional support so you don't cave in the fiberglass. I have seen outboards on at least a couple of 27's in my area, but didn't look closely to see how they may have augmented the transom.
For what it's worth the 76 Oday 27 has a narrow, 9 inch by 18 inch backer plate of plywood for reinforcing the backstay chainplate. The remainder of the transom is 1/4 solid fiberglass. Crawl down in the starboard cockpit locker and take a look. There is plenty of room down there to fully analyze the stern and whether an outboard was standard. The port side locker is a bit tight but also offers a view of that side. Even if you don't have reinforcing that can be added with little difficulty.
You're absolutely right. If you have the room to get inside you could beef up the transom with a piece of plywood. That's what they used on my boat. I was able to reach inside my transom and remove my outboard bracket just last week through an 8'' Beckson Deck Plate that I had installed in the center of my inside transom several years ago. Luckily the fiber block stayed in place when I removed the bracket and I was very fortunate that the four bolts lined up with the bracket that I installed. I countersunk the bolt holes in the block a little and used Butyl Tape to seal the bolts.
I think it will be water tight. I won't find out till next year. I'm finished for the season. In fact I just took my boat off the trailer and put it on boat stands next to my house. I worked like a son of a gun this morning and I have the aches to prove it.
I think it will be water tight. I won't find out till next year. I'm finished for the season. In fact I just took my boat off the trailer and put it on boat stands next to my house. I worked like a son of a gun this morning and I have the aches to prove it.
Here are some pictures of the transom of YOT. You can see there is plenty of room to access the transom where you might want to put an outboard. You can see the chainplate backer in photo 2.
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I think the 27 had the outboard bracket as standard originally, with inboard as an option, however.... the bracket and reinforcement of the transom would only be on an outboard model, not included if the boat had a factory-installed inboard. Many of the 27s that orignally came with outboards were later upgraded to inboards by their owners. Various engines were used, depending on owner choice (or local engine dealer). Below I have posted a 1973 O'DAY 23 ad and a Yachting Magazine review, both mention the outboard as standard.
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It would be easy and advisable to drill a couple of exploratory holes from inside the transom to be sure the core is dry. If it's not, then repair. If yes, and you r not going blue water, then add your bracket and sail. Of course back up your bracket with a suitable backing plate.Sunbird22358 said:
Hey, who is the old gray haired model posing in your cockpit locker. Be sure you have appropriate advanced cardiac rescue equipment handy!
Damn Trinka, is it winter up there already?!? I am going out to tomorrow for an overnighter. It is finally cool enough to be on the water!
Oh sure, after all I've done to, errr done for you Keith. Just had my stress test and after 30 min at full incline and speed my silly heart wouldn't beat over 140/min and BP never above 135/70.
Damn Trinka, is it winter up there already?!? I am going out to tomorrow for an overnighter. It is finally cool enough to be on the water!
After pulling my boat out before Irene arrived, I decided to call it quits for the season and get a head start on next year's work. Yesterday I sanded half of my hull and what a dirty job that is. I left my single burner Origo stove in the boat so I could go in the cabin, hang out and have coffee. I like to read and take naps in the V birth section. Wayne pulled his boat out yesterday and he's all done for the season too.
If the fishing picked up and the new drawbridge was going to be fully completed on time for two way traffic as promised, I may have opted to bring my boat back, but none of these things came to fruition. Anyway, I still have my kayak to use on the river. Have fun out there Keith.
Joe
After pulling my boat out before Irene arrived, I decided to call it quits for the season and get a head start on next year's work. Yesterday I sanded half of my hull and what a dirty job that is. I left my single burner Origo stove in the boat so I could go in the cabin, hang out and have coffee. I like to read and take naps in the V birth section. Wayne pulled his boat out yesterday and he's all done for the season too.
If the fishing picked up and the new drawbridge was going to be fully completed on time for two way traffic as promised, I may have opted to bring my boat back, but none of these things came to fruition. Anyway, I still have my kayak to use on the river. Have fun out there Keith.
Joe
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