But I had right of way!!!

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Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
At some (not all) of our races, the PRO reads the riot act to the racers that you are not to mess with tankers or USCG boats, and if you do, it is grounds for a DSQ. We have a charity regatta coming up, and the course is in the main ship channel. I am sure we're gonna get "The talk" at the skippers meeting.
We do the same thing. The CG requires us to file for a free permit for our wed. beer can races and our annual regatta. They can just as easily refuse to issue next year.

Another great quote comes to mind:

"Hey, you scratched my anchor!" , Al Czervik
 
Sep 28, 2008
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Canadian Sailcraft CS27 Victoria B.C.
Anyone who pushes it with a freighter or tanker is an idiot, even when not in restricted waters. That was definitely in an area where the tanker had few options.
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,432
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
If you look at the boat very carefully just a few seconds before impact, is that a crew member I saw diving into the water on the starboard side of the sailboat?
 
Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
I though the Darwin award required the nominee suffer death. Clearly he will live to tell a (slightly distorted no doubt) tale of awesome seafaring prowess of how he stared down freighterious-giganticious with only a pink spinnaker and guile. The freighter departe the area at a high rate of speed after the first joust from our mast.

Madness!!!
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
He is a candidate for the Darwin award. If he continues his present grade of seamanship he may well be a winner next time.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Whaat will this do to his insurance rates?
 

Gail R

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Apr 22, 2009
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Pearson 34 Freeport, ME
Beats me. I didn't set the course.

First off, the Portland, Maine ship channel is not particularly busy -- nothing like what you might see at Cowes or in the Chesapeake.

The race organizers like to have the course where it can be seen from shore. The channel is easily viewed from one of the shore lighthouse parks.

That said, I remember one year when it was foggy, they abandoned the race because there was a tanker going out and some boats were (apparently) in its path. The next year, they moved the course to an area away from the harbor and the ship channel and up toward the next town to the east. About that time, the revenues from this charity regatta started to drop. Not sure if the course change had anything to do with it (I sincerely doubt it) but you never know.

It's also quite possible, even likely, that the "A" racing boat skippers whined the way they always do whenn a course isn't a perfect windward-leeward. The course out the ship channel is a perfect W/L in prevailing southwesterlies and I know a lot of the A skippers HATED the new course.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Fed up w/ personal attacks I'm done with SBO
It's also quite possible, even likely, that the "A" racing boat skippers whined the way they always do when a course isn't a perfect windward-leeward. The course out the ship channel is a perfect W/L in prevailing southwesterlies and I know a lot of the A skippers HATED the new course.
Just my opinion but it sounds pretty arrogant of the A skippers to impose themselves on everyone around them specifically commercial shipping without regard to safety while they go about racing their expensive toys and spineless of the race organizers not to stand up to them. What's more important than safety, apparent wind angle?

Yet another reason why I don't race. I've said it before, y'all who enjoy that stuff, more power to ya, not me.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
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Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
One has to die to get the Darwin Award. The whole idea is the culling of the species due to survival of the fittest and intelligence counts big time.
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
One has to die to get the Darwin Award. The whole idea is the culling of the species due to survival of the fittest and intelligence counts big time.
We can only hope that the enormity of the situation causes impotence:eek: thus indirectly culling the species.;)
 

Gail R

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Apr 22, 2009
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Pearson 34 Freeport, ME
Just my opinion but it sounds pretty arrogant of the A skippers to impose themselves on everyone around them specifically commercial shipping without regard to safety while they go about racing their expensive toys and spineless of the race organizers not to stand up to them. What's more important than safety, apparent wind angle?

Yet another reason why I don't race. I've said it before, y'all who enjoy that stuff, more power to ya, not me.
Surely you are not surprised to learn of such arrogance! :D I can't say for sure what the reason was, there were probably many factors that went into the decision.

The number of racers in our fleet is dropping like a stone. It's rather sad, really. Too many competing interests, and the economy hasn't helped. Some people (like me) are getting just plain tired of it, and the politics that go along with it.
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
Some people (like me) are getting just plain tired of it, and the politics that go along with it.
Getting tired of winning, huh Gail?;):theman:

Waiting to see your registration for the NEHR and nice write up in the paper Sunday on the MS Regatta.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Catalina 310 278 Lyndeborough NH
One has to die to get the Darwin Award. The whole idea is the culling of the species due to survival of the fittest and intelligence counts big time.
Darwin's hypothesis is misquoted. He wrote "survival of the FIT" not "survival of the FITTEST".

Think of it this way: If someone (or something) survives long enough to create offspring, the traits are passed to the next generation. That is being "fit". It doesn't have to be "the best", just good enough.

A technicality in some people's minds, but it also does explain the varieties of <insert adjective> people.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Mr. Darwin had a firm belief in natural selection. Prey has to be able to run faster than predator those that don't become selected for dinner. Sailboats can't run faster than tankers, so sailboats must hide from tankers, those that don't get eaten.
 
Dec 2, 2003
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Hunter 376 Warsash, England --
FWIW The Cowes Week Royal Yacht Squadron race platform normally has a very experienced repesentative from the port of Southampton present to 'advise'.
It is not unknown for ship's masters to be asked to alter their schedules to avoid conflict with the yachts.
In return the yachts are expected to behave themselves and not try kamikaze moves.

Seems incredible but I really don't think he saw the ship. If he had then surely he would have instinctively tacked. Yes it is possible with a kite up - I know first hand.
 
Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
Seems incredible but I really don't think he saw the ship. If he had then surely he would have instinctively tacked. Yes it is possible with a kite up - I know first hand.
Come on.... someone on the sailboat saw it, cause he bailed before.
 
Sep 15, 2009
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S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
If you look at the boat very carefully just a few seconds before impact, is that a crew member I saw diving into the water on the starboard side of the sailboat?
i couldnt tell if some one bailed out or not but i dont think i would have done that at that point as i would be real concerned about the under tow of the ship takeing me into the screws:eek: would seem to put new meaning to the term MEAT PIE.....

regards

woody
 
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