Upgrade to 90 Amp alternator

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Jul 16, 2006
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-Catalina C310 RNSYS
Hello All:

Several years ago I converted the two separate battery house banks at about 200 Ah each to one bank of ~400 Ah with a separate starter battery on the second circuit.

At the time, I never bothered to upgrade the alternator.

I am now considering installing the 90 amp alternator that MaineSail describes in his website and am wondering if I should go to external regulation?

Regards

Chris
 
Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
Don't bother with the alternator upgrade, not going to charge any faster under normal conditions. I would invest in a solar system for my money.
 

paulj

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Mar 16, 2007
1,361
Catalina 310 Anacortes,Wa
Chris Connor


""am wondering if I should go to external regulation""


For my money a Honda 2000i for your solution............:stupid:



paulj :troll:
 
Jul 16, 2006
92
-Catalina C310 RNSYS
:)

The Admiral requires a hairdryer when we cruise. I already have the Honda 2000 generator.

My concern is overheating of the alternator while trying to charge a 400 Ah bank with the stock 50 Amp alternator underway.

Cheers,

chris
 

Tom J

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Sep 30, 2008
2,325
Catalina 310 Quincy, MA
I think you're better of putting your money into the solar panel, as Witzend suggested. I made the same mod to the battery bank and the starter battery, and then installed a 135W solar panel. Now, the alternator barely has to work at all, and some times, it shuts off altogether. Was really weird the first time the tach went to zero with the engine running!
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
:)

The Admiral requires a hairdryer when we cruise. I already have the Honda 2000 generator.

My concern is overheating of the alternator while trying to charge a 400 Ah bank with the stock 50 Amp alternator underway.

Cheers,

chris
Your batts can theoretically accept about 100 amps in bulk but if not discharging deeply you won't likely run your alt long enough to cook it before hitting the 75-80% threshold where the batteries begin really limiting the accepted current. On trick to use, if concerned about over heating the alt, is to limit the revs on the engine until you see the current drop on the battery monitor. This will take the alt off its "ceiling" and let it cool off.

External regulators are never a bad idea, especially in hot climates, but I would spend money on solar and a battery monitor fist if you don't already have them, then 90A alt, then regulator. The Leece-Neville 8MR can be converted anytime so you can buy it and run it stock then if you feel you want the benefits of an external reg, like temp sensing, you can always upgrade in stages.

Our bank is 375 Ah (plus starter) on a stock 50A Mitsubishi alt. The difference is we rarely discharge below 70% SOC, were very energy efficient, and she rarely puts out her 45-48 hot amps for long enough to do any damage before we hit the acceptance wall.

In order for external regulation to be the most beneficial you need to know;

Do I want or need alt and or battery temp sensing
Do I motor long enough for float to even kick in
Do I want to program my regulator to maximize the charge times most efficiently
Why am I looking to upgrade to external regulation and what do I expect
Do I have GEL Cells or AGM batteries
I've run my 50A alt for "several years" and it is fine so what "improvement " am I looking for.
Will I sleep well if I don't do this upgrade?
Will my wife kill me if I spend any more money on this boat...:D
 
Aug 24, 2009
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Catalina 310 Sturgeon Bay, WI
Question to everyone adding solar - how have you mounted your panels?
 

Tom J

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Sep 30, 2008
2,325
Catalina 310 Quincy, MA
I mounted my 135W panel on top of my davits. It rotates forward and aft, and even horizontal, puts out plenty of power. Sorry, no pictures, I won't be at the boat until late May.
 
Jul 16, 2006
92
-Catalina C310 RNSYS
Hello MaineSail:

Thank you for the reply. As usual you have explained my options to me in a clear and concise manner that has answered all of my questions.

Your efforts are very much appreciated. I hope you are having better weather in Maine than we are experiencing here in Slackers.

REgards

Chris
 
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