Ballast tank fill/empty process

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Oct 10, 2010
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Hunter H260 Gull Lake
I'm dealing on a H260 and from speaking to the owner, he brought up a point that I had not considered. When you retrieve a 260 from the water, do you pull it out with the ballast in the tanks? I assumed that you would drop the ballast before bringing it onto the trailer. My concern is that my vehicle will have enough jam to pull it out. I have a 4x4 Durango. Should I be concerned? This would be a deal breaker. How do you guys retrieve your Hunters and what types of vehicles do you use?

Thanks,

Shanker
 

davidb

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Aug 22, 2010
11
Hunter 23.5 Benbrook, TX
It would be almost impossible to get the water out of the ballast tank BEFORE you put it on the trailer. On my Hunter 23.5, I just open the valve plate and let the water drain as I pull it out. For what it's worth, I'm pulling it with a Mazda Tribute V6.
 
Aug 10, 2010
178
Catalina 25 The mountains
I know people pull these boats with half ton trucks, but mine will push my 3/4 ton around a little and I empty it before hauling.
It's not a heavy load but it is an awkward load. If you have 4 low then that will get you up the ramp, no problem. I wouldn't want to pull it on the highway with a durango. I'd be concerned about the sway.

And plan on pulling it out with a full ballast. Open the valve, put it on the trailer, then pull it out.
 
Jan 22, 2008
423
Catalina 30 Mandeville, La.
I currently tow my 23.5 with a 1/2 ton pickup but had towed it with a 2000 Durango and prior to that a Ford Aerostar minivan with V6. The Durango handled the load best but all pulled the boat with full ballast tank up every ramp I attempted. I never had a problem on any ramp. I never had to tow through mountainous or very hilly areas either. New Orleans and most of the gulf coast is pretty flat.
 

BrianW

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Jan 7, 2005
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Hunter 26 Guntersville Lake, (AL)
For my H26, if there aren't other impatient boat owners waiting on the ramp, I first pull my the boat just enough out of the water for the ballast to drain, then finish pulling up the ramp. If there are other boaters around while the ballast is draining, I always exclaim, "damn, I'm gonna have to get that leak fixed one of these days!" I had a G20 Chevy Van with a V6. It was marginal. The H26 played hell on an already weak transmission. I'm currently looking for a replacement tow vehicle. BrianW
 

Dave D

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May 7, 2009
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hunter 26 Jordan Lake
I'm dealing on a H260 and from speaking to the owner, he brought up a point that I had not considered. When you retrieve a 260 from the water, do you pull it out with the ballast in the tanks? I assumed that you would drop the ballast before bringing it onto the trailer. My concern is that my vehicle will have enough jam to pull it out. I have a 4x4 Durango. Should I be concerned? This would be a deal breaker. How do you guys retrieve your Hunters and what types of vehicles do you use?

Thanks,

Shanker
here are a few things you should NOT do with your 260, and two of them are:
1) DO NOT operate your 260 in the water with the ballast tank empty any longer than absolutely necessary. this will cause you some serious stability issues which given the right circumstances, could be tragic.
2) DO NOT tow the 260 with the ballast tanks full. wrong set of forces for the design.

only way to retrieve with no ballast would be to install a pump, which would raise all sorts of additional issues. I did the Brian W. shuffle with a twist. pull her onto the trailer, pull her out far enough to get the dump/intake out of the water, drain, close intake and re-float to adjust her position on the bunks (if necessary) then up the ramp we go. The dumping process takes like a whole minute or something, so you really won't be inconveniencing anyone too much.

I launched and retrieved with a Jeep GC with inline 6 and 4WD. NEVER had a problem getting her up the ramp. Even out performed the brain surgeons with heavy power boats and 2WD trucks!
 
Aug 9, 2005
825
Hunter 260 Sarasota,FL
If haven't you already figured it out from everybody saying it, I'll add......it's a non event.

The 260 drain is opened when the trailer is under her, I only pull up a few feet and wait 2-3mins with the trailer still well submerged then pull out of the way after it's 90% empty. Sometimes I even do as Dave mentioned in repositioning the boat with a brief backdown when the ballast is empty. I usually empty my fresh water tank in the bow too(200lbs full).

Also my 260 on the dual axle trailer pulls down the hwy far better than my old 240 with a single axle ever did. I use a 1/2 ton suburban with a V-6 and it'd do fine if I wasn't doing more than 60-63mph. After that my A/T would complain after an hour our so. I'd think that a 4x4 Durango would do just fine if you don't press it too hard between breaks.

Common knowledge says keep your tire pressure up(truck and trailer), check the hubs for heat in the first 15mins on the road and every 90mins afterward and keep 10% more boat weight on the tongue than the rear and it'll go fine. A Boat U.S. towing/trailering membership may pay for itself quickly if you tow more than a few miles a year too.

Brian better get that leak fixed;) Good luck and let us know how it goes. Mike
 
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May 10, 2004
254
Hunter MH 37 Manitowoc, WI
We pulled our 26 with a succession of large 4X4 SUVS (Expedition, Suburban, Avalanche) and never had a problem getting up ramps, although the Army Engineer ramps in Red Rock and Coralville Lakes (Iowa) did require the truck to be in AWD or 4 Hi. I always opened the ballast drain before pulling up the ramp, and on steeper ramps needed to do the up-down shuffle to get the boat properly set on the trailer. Your Durango should have no problems.
 
Aug 3, 2009
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H 260 Have Trailer Will Travel
I don't post here much because everybody else knows a lot more than me so I mostly just lurk and learn BUT in this instance I think I have some insight, to wit:

I haul my 260 with a V6 Nissan Pathfinder.

My introduction to hauling it was when I picked it up at Sag Harber in the Hamptons from Moe & Joe the "we don't know 'nuthin about no sailboats" marina owners who I had paid $400 to package the thing up and load it on the trailer, both of which they did as badly as is humanly possible.

Anyway, we hitched it up and brought it back out the LIE (I would have loved to use the Parkway but alas the mast won't clear most of the overpasses) at around 4 PM and hit NYC where we learned that there'd been a fire and explosion on the bridge we had painstakingly researched and decided upon.

The engineers had reduced the allowable load for that brdge and while we were well underneath it they didn't believe me. Hell, looking at that huge thing we were towing I wouldn't have believed me either.

So they shoved us off the expressway onto a side street in the Bronx where we drew a lot of odd looks trying to navigate around narrow one way streets. A good way to learn all about towing a bigass boat like a 260 while trying not to throw up.

Anyway we found the Tappan Zee and made it back to Central Pennsylvania about midnight. We were thoroughly fried and five minutes away from a divorce but the rig did just fine. even through the torrential downpour/thunderstorm we drove through for the final hour.

A month late I took it to Lake Champlain, around the north end and down into the Vermont Islands (Isle La Motte actually) a seven hour drive. In August. She did fine, although be advised that the rig won't fit under every gas station canopy. You have to pick and choose carefully.

Did I take it pretty easy? You bet your sweet butt I did. Don't think I ever went over 62, and I watched the temps like a hawk. It was a rock back there.

Bottom line, don't be dumb and you'll be fine.

As far as the ballast issue, not a problem at all.

I'm going to skip the "open up the valve and let the water out before I hit the ramp" thesis because I'm certain that by now you've seen the flaw there and so we'll assume that's a non-issue.

But as noted above it does not take very long for the water to drain. Frankly, I've seen a good many juiced up weekend warriors in 18 foot power boats who took twice as long accomplishing a retrieve as we do and I'm no genius.

The only thing I will do is if there are a number of boats waiting on a haul out I'll pull over and let the crowd disburse a little, but I'd probably do that anyway.

And unless the ramp is pretty shallow I can usually haul it out without having to extend the trailer tongue either. Get it through the goalposts and tied up to the winch and just pull it out so the ballast valve just clears the water. Six inches is plenty if you're worried about it.

(Plus, as people have noted previously, the rubes find it endlessly entertaining and stand there fascinated watching the water gush out. A great conversation starter, assuming that you want to talk to a dead drunk guy with beet red skin who smells like dead fish.)

Bottom line it's just not an issue.
 

Deucer

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Oct 6, 2008
157
Hunter H260 Keesler AFB Marina
Concur. 4WD Low should pull it out with no problem. You didn't say what engine your Durango has. Six or V8? Either will get it out of the water. I use an F-150 SuperCab with 4.6 V8. Never had so much as a hick up getting out with full ballast tank. I pull up out of the ramp, then let the ballast drain. First time I did it, I washed away some downhill flowerbeds. Luckily the deputy base commander was with me and while I profusely apologized, he said it was all good. Next time I came out, there were curbs around the flowerbed.

As for towing, the H260 is a beast back there on smaller tow vehicles. We towed ours home 650 mi from where we bought her. Never made it much above 60 and got a whopping 8-9 mpg (thought something was wrong with the gas gauge). Now, we have a 2003 Navigator. Waiting to see how well it will tow. We're wanting to drag her over to Pensacola Fl (130 mi).

OBTW...I worry less about towing now than I do about raising and lowering the mast all the time. That's more of a hassle than towing.
 
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