Please identify this sailboat emblem for me!!!

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dohcdelsol93

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Apr 9, 2011
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Mac venture 21 lake hartwell


i purchased a sailboat with a reissued FLZ HIN. It looks like a mac 21, smells like a mac 21 and after hours of sanding it even tastes like a mac 21

however, the interior set up is different and i have 3 of these emblems on the boat.

Can you identify who this emblem belongs to?
 
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Dave D

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May 7, 2009
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hunter 26 Jordan Lake
dohcdelsol93 said:


i purchased a sailboat with a reissued FLZ HIN. It looks like a mac 21, smells like a mac 21 and after hours of sanding it even tastes like a mac 21

however, the interior set up is different and i have 3 of these emblems on the boat.

Can you identify who this emblem belongs to?
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Check this out:

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=469734&page=1

from the iboats forum. looks like it is an early Venture?
 
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dohcdelsol93

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Apr 9, 2011
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Mac venture 21 lake hartwell
thats my thread from iboats lol

I found this emblem and figured i'd try my luck here.

I wouldn't think Mac Ventures would have W/21 emblems on their boats.


but i could be wrong

other that getting replacement parts it really doesn't matter what she is, she has a solid hull and good mast/boom

as i replace everything it will be replaced with better than OEM.


Would just be nice to know excactly what i'm putting all this time/energy in.

1 week of nothing but sanding, only the cabin is ready to be prepped/painted!
 
Ed Schenck

Ed Schenck

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
You don't list the boat's year of manufacture. So are we to assume it predates(11/1972) the necessary hull id(HIN) on the transom?
 
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dohcdelsol93

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Apr 9, 2011
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Mac venture 21 lake hartwell
the only HIN numbers on the boat are reissued numbers, they are FLZ which is a "homemade" boat.

I really wish i could find out what she is!!!
 
Ed Schenck

Ed Schenck

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Except that Wayfarer never built a 21 . . . . .maybe.

So you have a title? What is the model year listed?
 
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dohcdelsol93

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Apr 9, 2011
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Mac venture 21 lake hartwell
the boat came from Georgia, they do not title their boats in georgia. He got it from TN where they also do not title boats.

Florida was the last known state the boat was titeled in.

Thats probably been 20+ years ago.
 
Ted

Ted

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Jan 26, 2005
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C&C 110 Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
Could you post a photo of the actual boat? Or does that make it too simple to identify it.:)
 
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Stu Jackson

Stu Jackson

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Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Years ago either SAIL magazine or Cruising World published a little booklet called "Sailboat Insignias." It may be on their website in archived material. I have it on our boat, 'cuz it does me no good here at home. :)
 
jepomer

jepomer

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Jan 22, 2008
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Catalina 310 278 Lyndeborough NH
HIN that starts out with the two letters of a state followed by the letter "Z" indicate that the original HIN (if it existed) is missing and the state issued a HIN. "FLZ" is a HIN issued by the State of Florida. States have this process for any registrable vehicles. Boats and trailers are the most common whether home-made, one-off, or production.

Technically it does not mean "home made", it just means that the original HIN is not found. If it was built before 1972, it will not have a HIN, but would have a "hull number".

It is possible to have a boat with a state issued HIN and then locate the original HIN that was buried under layers of paint or from the secondary location. If the vehicle/vessel is inspected by the authorities, it could be registered with the original HIN.

I may sound nit-picking to some, but calling a production boat "home-made" just doesn't set right either even though the term is widely used.
 
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dohcdelsol93

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Apr 9, 2011
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Mac venture 21 lake hartwell
i'm in the middle of sanding the entire boat down for re painting. If the OG HIN or hull number is on the transome maybe i can find it

the HIN i have now is FLZF then numbers.
 
jepomer

jepomer

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Jan 22, 2008
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Catalina 310 278 Lyndeborough NH
dohcdelsol93 said:
i'm in the middle of sanding the entire boat down for re painting. If the OG HIN or hull number is on the transome maybe i can find it

the HIN i have now is FLZF then numbers.
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Only the first three letters are defined for the HIN code of the state. This would correspond to the manufacturer's code. Florida happened to use "F" for the fourth position with this boat. The OEM typically uses this position to define a model.

See this link for more details.
www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm
 
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