Marina Slip Fees

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Oct 4, 2008
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Hunter 36 Mulberry Cove Marina
I have been at my marina for over 4 years. I have a long term lease. For the most part I am satisfied with the overall service I receive. Recently, I had my boat hauled out and it was on the hard for the month of April. I asked the marina to consider refunding the portion of my monthly lease for electricity simply because I did not use any. They charge a flat fee. The answer I received was we do not pro rate any services --BOTTOM LINE SORRY CHARLIE! Can anyone share with me if this happened to them how their marina handled it. I was very disappointed to say the least. Thanks.
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
You signed a long term lease. Your marina relies on that income to maintain and possibly expand their business and rightly so. Why should your plans punish them?

Would you expect a landlord of a rental property to refund you for time you are away?

Next time don't sign the long term lease and you will not have this problem. I bet the difference is a lot more than what you expected to get back for the non-use of electricity.
 
Oct 4, 2008
146
Hunter 36 Mulberry Cove Marina
What are you talking about? I asked for a $35 credit for electricity. I didn't use it. They didn't get charged for it. How am I punishing them? Next time read.

You signed a long term lease. Your marina relies on that income to maintain and possibly expand their business and rightly so. Why should your plans punish them?

Would you expect a landlord of a rental property to refund you for time you are away?

Next time don't sign the long term lease and you will not have this problem. I bet the difference is a lot more than what you expected to get back for the non-use of electricity
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
I did read it. Does $35 mean enough to piss off your landlord?
 
Nov 6, 2006
9,984
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
'Nother thing to consider.. the $35 is WAY more than you use in a given month, unless you live aboard.. The fee is more about covering the cost of the wiring and switchgear and outlets and maintenance of the system to code, etc.. those things do not stop when your boat is not there.
 

Alan

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Jun 2, 2004
4,174
Hunter 35.5 LI, NY
Are we really serious??? This disagreement is over 35 bucks???....Oh, please, sorry Charlie!
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,175
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Fees

While you have a point, I think it's minimal compared to the value of the lease. FWIW, I have had expense-inclusive arrangements for most of my boating life in SoCal and even while gone for months at a time, was responsible for all cost.
 

Rick

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Oct 5, 2004
1,097
Hunter 420 Passage San Diego
Im going to have to jump on the other side here also. For most of us, the priviledge of boat ownership are discretionary dollars. Like Rick D, I boat in SoCal also and my marina charges a flat rate for electricity. I use that portion or lose it. I always use it and pay any extra. In addition if I am gonna be away from the slip more than three days I must notify the marina so my slip can be used for recipricals. They dont subtract that from my bill as far as I have ever been able to tell to include electricity.

Its unfortunate that your marina did not work with you because you seem to be a good tenant. Every month when I pay that check for the priviledge of having a condo on the water in SoCal that moves, I smile. There are always moorings.

Side note. Rick D, have had a lot going on so not gonna to the race this year. We are just gonna go to Catalina for the week with no agenda. Good luck and get back on the podium!

Rick
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Different take on the subject.

If you rent an apartment for $1000 a month and that includes gas/electric/water/trash. You go on a vacation for 6 weeks. Would you expect the landlord to credit you for the 6 weeks of non-use?

I do not think so! While the apartment may not break out the cost of the utilities they are still charging you for them whether you use them or NOT.

If the marina would do this, it would be a "nice" jesture on their part but not required either.

PS: What is your marina charging for a slip in your area?
 

sfgary

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Sep 25, 2008
123
Challenger sloop Alameda
If $35.00 bothers you maybe you should think about a solar panel. I don't plug in and still get charged $1.00 a month as a part of my rental agreement for reading the meters.

Gary
 

gpd955

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Feb 22, 2006
1,164
Catalina 310 Cape May, NJ
PS: What is your marina charging for a slip in your area?
My 31' slip was $4995 for the year. It includes year round use (bubbler system in the winter), use of the casino-hotel pool, gym, etc. (can even call room service and they'll deliver it to the dock), cable, telephone, WiFi, water, metered electricity (I've never paid more than $35 for the whole year and we are almost liveaboard in the summer). In the winter they also allow us to choose any slip we want if we are staying so we can move to a more protected area in the marina. We have 24hr access to showers/restrooms, the hotel restaurants/clubs and every slip-holder gets 2 passes to the in-water boat shows (unfortunately some of the slip holders are contractually obligated to vacate for the show time period---usually 5 days).

It is a nice marina and the prices are comparable to other larger marinas in the area and most don't have the same amenities. Unfortualtely, there are no boat removal, storage or maintenance facilities so to pull the boat it can become a pain in the butt process.
 
Apr 8, 2010
2,022
Ericson Yachts Olson 34 28400 Portland OR
My 31' slip was $4995 for the year. It includes year round use (bubbler system in the winter), use of the casino-hotel pool, gym, etc. (can even call room service and they'll deliver it to the dock), cable, telephone, WiFi, water, metered electricity (I've never paid more than $35 for the whole year and we are almost liveaboard in the summer). In the winter they also allow us to choose any slip we want if we are staying so we can move to a more protected area in the marina. We have 24hr access to showers/restrooms, the hotel restaurants/clubs and every slip-holder gets 2 passes to the in-water boat shows (unfortunately some of the slip holders are contractually obligated to vacate for the show time period---usually 5 days).

It is a nice marina and the prices are comparable to other larger marinas in the area and most don't have the same amenities. Unfortualtely, there are no boat removal, storage or maintenance facilities so to pull the boat it can become a pain in the butt process.
By Golly, the cost of living is high where you boat.
I have a yacht club slip on a new-new concrete dock, power and water included, with floating clubhouse and bbq access....
while I do have to put in a min. of 12 work hours a year (a no brainer, that -- I have never worked that few hours yet), I pay a tad over $1700. a year. for everything. That's membership, moorage, utilities, and all fees.

Private (and often corporate-owned) marinas in the area charge about 70% more money.

I would agree with the original poster and other forumites about the futility of wanting them to breakout the cost of power and refund it. Unless they are running a high vacancy rate and worry that you'll go elsewhere, it's just not going to happen.
A bit frustrating, but sometimes that's just the way it is.

OTOH, we sail on a fresh water river with current where the venue is at most a half mile wide. How's your sailing area?? Maybe that makes up for the $$. (?)
;)
 

Rick

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Oct 5, 2004
1,097
Hunter 420 Passage San Diego
By Golly, the cost of living is high where you boat.
I have a yacht club slip on a new-new concrete dock, power and water included, with floating clubhouse and bbq access....
while I do have to put in a min. of 12 work hours a year (a no brainer, that -- I have never worked that few hours yet), I pay a tad over $1700. ;)
Hey FastOlson I get up that way quite a bit and when the weather, well its not raining, it is quite beautiful. Always thought a sail on the Columbia would be fun. What is that current there anyway?
You dont even want to know what guys like Rick D up in Long Beach and I pay for our slips. Well multiply your number by 3.5 for San Diego... a 35 foot slip. It is San Diego. Our sailing window is 365 days a year. I suppose its not the cost of living so much as it is the location.

Cheers
 
Feb 17, 2010
4
Catalina 30 Brownsville, WA
I agree; marina fees are all about location. Our Catalina 30 is on the Kitsap Pennisula in WA. $1,836 per year; includes everything. We sail year-round despite the rain and snow; many don't up here. Take your boat to marinas closer to Seattle and the rates double.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
here in n ensenada at juanitos boat dock, i am paying 25 dollars per day for slippage--is a bit rickety and wild in weather but it is ok for this situation. in fla for transient dockage was 1 dollar per foot in off season and 1.50 perfoot during season in psj marina-- to me now would be 41-48 dollars per day , dependent on whether they count sprit as length....
 

JVB

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Jan 26, 2006
270
Schock Wavelength 24 Lake Murray, SC
I pay $1560 a year for docking a 25 foot boat on a large lake in central South Carolina. That includes electricity if not living aboard. A similar arrangement in Charleston is three to five times as expensive depending on how good a location and amenities.
 

Gary_H

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Nov 5, 2007
469
Cal 2-25 Carolina Beach NC
I pay 250.00 a month for my slip which is very reasonable for my area. It provides power, water, pool , showers, ice machine, laundry room, and clubhouse privileges. I do not pay separately for power it's included. The rate is the same regardless of how much actual power I use or how much time I actually occupy the slip. It would never have crossed my mind to ask for a refund for not being there.
 
Jun 16, 2010
495
In search of my next boat Palm Harbor, FL
I pay $210/mo, for slip, power, water, showers. But I dont spend much time there. My time is spent out in the Gulf.
 
Nov 8, 2007
1,555
Hunter 27_75-84 Sandusky Harbor Marina, Ohio
Around $2,200 a year gets us a 30 foot dock with power and water, swimming pool, BBQ's, pump outs, haul out and bottom cleaning, outdoor storage, and putting us back in the water. In addition, Sandusky Harbor Marina is capable of most maintenance jobs with acceptable quality in case I don't choose to do them myself.
 

LuzSD

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Feb 21, 2009
1,009
Catalina 30 San Diego/ Dana Point, Ca.
In San Diego we pay just under $500 per month (30ft double slip) and that includes a suposedly metered electric charge. We have been charged anywhere from $12 to $29 in meter charges and it does not match how often we are there......I think it is a racket.. but I also love the slip and agree with someone above that said they smile while writing that check. I know we are blessed to get to enjoy all that our boat bring to our lives. And we sail every week, multiple times usually...so how much is that worth? Dana Point rate is almost exactly same $$ for individual slips, just all included.
 
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