Is it ok to admit defeat?

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WayneH

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Jan 22, 2008
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Tartan 37 287 Pensacola, FL
NEVER EVER admit defeat. But it's ok to be a little behind on sailing days. Take one project and finish it completely and thoroughly then move to the next.

My problem seems to be picking the project that has four or five project ahead of it that must be finished before it.
 

JVB

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Jan 26, 2006
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Schock Wavelength 24 Lake Murray, SC
Yes, Cool Beans, it is OK to admit your boat has more problems than you are comfortable dealing with. You could trade for a smaller newer boat or pay others to fix some of the problems for you. You should get into a situation where you are happy to own a boat, not where you feel like it's a burden. There are lots of gung-ho answers above but that's not for everyone.
 
Dec 30, 2009
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jeanneau 38 gin fizz sloop Summer- Keyport Yacht Club, Raritan Bay, NJ, Winter Viking Marina Verplanck, NY
Hang in there it gets better a syou go. Jamesown distibuters, has great hardware fasteners, I suspect you need silicone bronze bolts, they have a great selection. When I order from them say on a wed noon, the box is usually on my porch thur eve, reg ups ship. Red
 
Mar 8, 2011
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Ranger 33 Norfolk
I appreciate you guys putting some perspective on this for me :D

There isn't really a lot that NEED'S to be done (that I know of) but tons of stuff I want to do. . .it's so easy to get overwhelmed just thinking about it. I like the advice given though. . .

"Inch by inch"
"One thing at a time"
"She floats and she sails"

And just knowing others are in the same boat as me (pun?) makes me feel better, lol.

JVB, it really only seems a burden when I roll out my entire to-do list so I can see it all at once :doh: It motors and sails, I managed to find the time and weekend weather windows for a good 7-8 sails last summer. I loved it, fast and nimble!! I want to eventually live aboard, which is why I bought a little bigger boat. I've thought about trading or selling for something else. . .but I doubt I could sell for anything in this economy. And if I did buy something else, I'd still be working on it lol, just if it was newer I'd probably have a mortgage on top of any repairs :eek: I'm ready though to consider paying the yard to do some work. . .

2 rainless days forecast!! I might be able to plug the holes I've created so far and slap a coat of paint on it. . .then get it back in the water! The rest can wait till next haul out. . .thanks guys!!
 
Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Yes, Cool Beans, it is OK to admit your boat has more problems than you are comfortable dealing with. You could trade for a smaller newer boat or pay others to fix some of the problems for you. You should get into a situation where you are happy to own a boat, not where you feel like it's a burden. There are lots of gung-ho answers above but that's not for everyone.
jvb, there is that, however, many of us feel that the more WE know about our boats, the SAFER we are. Trading for a smaller boat has simply been noted in earlier responses that it makes no difference: almost all boats will always have something to do on their To Do list - engine, power for electricity, cleaning, rig, etc. Gung-ho? I think not. I think that's it's simply a DIY approach, 'cuz the only, and now last time I've ever had anyone else work on MY boat (except for standing rigging and bottom jobs) I had to fix myself. Fix what you have, fix it so YOU know what going on, and avoid ever having to pay anyone else to "fix some problems for you." It's a completely wrong way to go for folks with the kinds of boats we have who contribute to this board. Just my impressions.

Added: Ranger 33. Sweet boat. KEEP it, you made a great choice.
 
Apr 8, 2010
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Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
Stu Jackson said:
jvb, there is that, however, many of us feel that the more WE know about our boats, the SAFER we are. Trading for a smaller boat has simply been noted in earlier responses that it makes no difference: almost all boats will always have something to do on their To Do list - engine, power for electricity, cleaning, rig, etc. Gung-ho? I think not. I think that's it's simply a DIY approach, 'cuz the only, and now last time I've ever had anyone else work on MY boat (except for standing rigging and bottom jobs) I had to fix myself. Fix what you have, fix it so YOU know what going on, and avoid ever having to pay anyone else to "fix some problems for you." It's a completely wrong way to go for folks with the kinds of boats we have who contribute to this board. Just my impressions.

Added: Ranger 33. Sweet boat. KEEP it, you made a great choice.
If i really dont know something, and cannot find enough / clear enough instructions online, and i can hire someone to do the job for a reasonable price. I will do that and watch, ask questions, and help anyway i can. All the while watching and learning from him what i was unable to figure out myself. I probably would never hire something done mymore than once (except scraping bottom paint, i hired day labor from by the I-95 overpass for $10/hr + lunch after my first day of scraping) as i would know how to do it myself after the first job.

Alternatively, if i would spend more in tools than it would cost to hire the job, and the tools wouldn't be used again anytime soon, i would probably hire it done.
 
Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Can you perhaps provide an example of tools you'd need on a boat that you wouldn't use again? Please note, I already excluded bottom jobs.
 
Jun 2, 2007
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Beneteau First 375 Slidell, LA
You guys who haul your boats every fall, just think what an advantage you have over us poor saps who have to schedule in maintenance along with sailing our boats every week of the year! I never get caught up!
 
Nov 22, 2008
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Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
You guys who haul your boats every fall, just think what an advantage you have over us poor saps who have to schedule in maintenance along with sailing our boats every week of the year! I never get caught up!

My heart bleeds but, barring the unexpected, I'll be one of you after launch this spring.
 

kenn

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Apr 18, 2009
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CL Sandpiper 565 Toronto
It doesnt matter if you have a big boat or a small one, there are always projects that need to be done. With that in mind, do the ones on the list right first that prevent you from putting it back in the water. Then enjoy your boat for a couple of weeks or a month, before moving on to more projects.

My dad use to say this about projects "inch by inch, everything is a cinch. Yard by yard, everything is hard."
Repeated for truth. When we bought our boat 5 springs ago, she was rough, but only needed a bit of work to be sail-able... so that's all we did, and got out sailing very quickly.

Each year we've tackled one or two issues, as well as the usual upkeep, and our boat is getting better and better.

A wise man, your father.
 
Apr 8, 2010
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Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
Can you perhaps provide an example of tools you'd need on a boat that you wouldn't use again? Please note, I already excluded bottom jobs.
Not won't use again, just won't use again anytime soon. I had some carpentry work done last year, the tools alone would have cost over a grand, and I don't have room for them all. Would I use a planer and router and table saw in the future? yes. Was it worth buying them, and storeing them until I need them again? no. That was the first carpentry work I've needed to do in years that couldn't be done with a jigsaw and dremel. I don't expect anymore to come up between now and when I have a dedicated workspace I can store large tools in.

really just saying that there are times when hireing a job does make sense, just give it some thought before you do.
 
Jun 5, 2004
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- - Manitowoc
Don't give up, just plod on. There'll be work on the boat right up to the last days of work or retirement. When one of my wifes friends complains about her newly retired husband getting under her feet and hanging around the house I simply tell her, "Buy him a boat" Canuk.
 

CarlN

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Jan 4, 2009
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Ketch 55 Bristol, RI
Two rules I follow:

You are not going to lie on your death bed and think "I should have painted that waterline instead of going sailing".

Do not take shortcuts on repairs. Fixing bad jobs takes much longer than doing it right. Get the right bolts and finish it next time. I have one project that is currently on it's 5th "rescheduling".

Carl
 
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