Buyimg an oday

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Jan 31, 2011
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Oday 222 Lake champlain
Hello to all,
I m planing to buy a used odAy 222 and came across a very good deal but the boat needs some work to be done! can anyone advise me on how hard is to find replacement parts for this boat and what are the key elements when inspecting the boat? I can provide more details if anybody is willing to have a phone conversation! Thanks. Leo 518 597 3384. Or I will call if you give me your #
 
Jun 12, 2010
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Oday 22 Orleans Marina, NOLA
Good deals are out there, to be sure, but there are just as many that are good deals because they are too far gone for the 'average' DIY'er, either in time, expense, or both.

O'Days parts are available, but often you won't need to buy the original part, unless your goal is to restore her back to original.

I would say we need some more info, how about:

1. Do you have experience with sailboats in general? That info will shape any responses you get.

2. Pics?

3. From your observations so far, what is 'wrong' with the boat?
 
Jan 31, 2011
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Oday 222 Lake champlain
First of all, thanks for the help!
I have some experience sailing j24 with friends but have never single handle! The boat is 1983 and he wants only 900 for it
Is missing the plate that connects the mast to the hull, there are some minor cracks near the mast attachment ( my main concern) and on top of the mast one of the cables came loose and needs to be welded!! The boat comes with trailer and has no soft spots on the fiber glass, I will find a link with pics!! Thank you
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Hello to all,
I m planing to buy a used odAy 222 and came across a very good deal but the boat needs some work to be done! can anyone advise me on how hard is to find replacement parts for this boat and what are the key elements when inspecting the boat? I can provide more details if anybody is willing to have a phone conversation! Thanks. Leo 518 597 3384. Or I will call if you give me your #
Leo,
I just sent you an email on this. I may be able to steer you in the right direction. Most of the parts for your boat are available through D&R Marine http://www.drmarine.com/ except for mast extrusions for Z-Spar masts but there are ways of getting around that problem. The Z-Spar masts and booms had cheap cast Aluminum extrusions that were made in France. If the mast step on this boat is broken, it's no biggie. You can install a stainless steel Dwyer mast hinge and have the Jib halyard exit near the main halyard like I did on my boat.
The rudder blades on these boats have a tendency to open at the seam that goes around the blade. After a period of time these blades will break in half. I had two of them break on my boat before I had a solid blade made by D&R Marine many years ago. This 222 may or may not have a tension bar inside the cabin which lends support to the mast. Most OD 222s had them but some didn't. I have no idea why that was the case.
The 222 is a keel/centerboard and there is no way to check the centerboard without exposing the bottom of the keel either by having it hoisted or jacking the boat up.
I can honestly say that the O'Day 222 is a great boat. I still have mine and I wouldn't trade it for any other boat. They weren't set up for single handing but you can set it up very easy by moving the Gennie winches, and tracks and cars to the combing and add an open clam cleat behind each winch. Leave the halyards right where they are, right at the mast and get an autopilot for this boat and you'll be right in business for single handing. I could go on and on about this boat, but I'd need more info and pics of this boat.
Joe
 
Oct 20, 2008
142
Oday 222 USA
Hi Leo:
If the model year is indeed 1983 as your post inicates, the boat is NOT a 222. The first year the 222 was manufactured was 1984- and as Trinkka indicated the early-manufactured 84 model 222 had to be retrofitted with a metal bar to suppport the cabin under the mast. Look in the archives to find pictures of Oday 22 and Oday 222. There were far more 22s manufactured.
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Leo,
Try to find the Vin number on this boat and post it here. The Vin number should be located in the upper right hand corner of the outside transom. Each of these letters and numbers have a meaning in the O'Day format. For instance: XDY=Mfg Id, O'Day. Then a letter comes after that which stands for the model. J=22. If this boat is an O'Day 222 it will have the same letter J under the new O'Day format which started in 1984. After the letter J there should be four numbers which are the Serial numbers. After the four Serial numbers there should be the letter M with two more numbers. M 83= Model year, or model 1983. There should be one more letter at the end of the M 83 which stands for the month that the boat was manufactured. A=Aug B=Sept and etc under the old format. Under the new format, A=Jan B=Feb. and etc.
This boat could be an O'Day 22 with a keel/centerboard or an early model O'Day 222 keel/centerboard. The O'Day 222s had keel/centerboards and most of the O'Day 22s had stub keels with no centerboard. Later on, O'Day started building the 22s with keel/centerboards until 1984 when they came out with the O'Day 222.

Click on to "Model Info" of the I love O'Days site and you will see the difference between the 22 and the 222. http://www.iheartodays.com/
 
Jan 24, 2011
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Hunter 30-2 Lake Champlain
My brother and I bought a used 222 a couple years ago and keep it on Champlain. We've been nothing but happy with it so far. She's required very little maintenance, but we've been updating and modifying quite a bit. There are some hairline cracks near the base of the mast on ours too, but as far as I've been told are only gel-coat deep and not at all structural. That being said, I wax that area a couple times a summer to keep the water from possibly penetrating and marked the ends of the cracks with a pencil mark to make sure they aren't spreading.
 
Jun 3, 2004
269
Oday and Catalina O'Day 25 and Catalina 30 Milwaukee
I have sailed my 1985 O'Day 222 for ten years, and it has been a great boat. I've sailed on small inland lakes, and on Lake Michigan, and it is a stable and forgiving boat even in strong winds (i.e., up to 20 knots with a double-reef in the main, and the jib furled). I typically have spent a week or so cruising on the boat with a good friend, and while it's a little tight, it is doable. I also had some minor cracks under the mast-step, and I determined that the metal tension bar that Joe is referring to was not installed on my boat (it was added either late in 1985 or 1986). I added the support and it stiffened up the hull under the mast such that my stays had to loosened about 1/4 inch each as a result. I have no problem single-handing the boat. When you replace the mast-step, get an organizing plate from DR Marine. It will fit the holes perfectly, and you can easily add a block to lead the main halyard back to the cockpit.

I've made a lot of upgrades over the years (new motor bracket, new motor, new main which made a huge difference in sailing performance, new CDI roller furling jib, electronics, new rigging, resealing under rub rail, brakes on trailer, autopilot, etc.). I always try to do a small improvement each year and the boat is just about done as far as I'm concerned.

Of course, I did finally give in to 2-foot-itus (actually 3-foot-itus), and bought a 1983 O'Day 25 last fall so I'll be turning my attention to the new older boat. But I have gotten a great deal of enjoyment out of the 222.

I'm a little confused about the statement that you made about the cable at the top of the mast (backstay presumably since the forestay attaches to a tang part way down the mast) that came loose and needs to be welded. If the cable separated from the swage attachment, the forestay will need to be replaced. If the aluminum masthead is damaged, it would need replacement. Not a big deal, or big expense either way. I would suggest that you check the bulkheads for signs of water intrusion. Also, check the carpet-liner for watermarks, since these are also indications of water intrusion. All of this can be fixed, but if your bulkheads are rotted, then it is a bigger job. Joe's comments about some of the other issues are as usual, right on target.

All in all, $900 for a 222 (or last year of the 22) seems like a pretty decent price if the boat is in good shape. You didn't indicate whether it had a trailer, but if it does, that's a very good price. The trailer alone is worth that.

O'Day's are well-made boats, and you won't regret the purchase. And this site is an excellent community to get ideas about how to improve the boat, and improve your sailing skills. There is also an annual get-together on the east coast known as rOnDAYvous of O'Day sailors. As a relocated east-coaster (I grew up in upstate NY), I haven't had the chance to participate, but it does look like they have a lot of fun. Perhaps someday.

Anyhow, I hope this helps, and good luck with the purchase if you go forward with it.

Dave
O'Days 222 and 25
 
Dec 26, 2009
211
Oday 22 cleveland
Hi Leo:
If the model year is indeed 1983 as your post inicates, the boat is NOT a 222. The first year the 222 was manufactured was 1984- and as Trinkka indicated the early-manufactured 84 model 222 had to be retrofitted with a metal bar to suppport the cabin under the mast. Look in the archives to find pictures of Oday 22 and Oday 222. There were far more 22s manufactured.
Mine is a 22, there are some picks in my galley to compare.
 
Jun 2, 2004
297
Oday 35 Staten Island, NY
Did someone say 'rOnDAYvous'?

O'Day's are well-made boats, and you won't regret the purchase. And this site is an excellent community to get ideas about how to improve the boat, and improve your sailing skills. There is also an annual get-together on the east coast known as rOnDAYvous of O'Day sailors. As a relocated east-coaster (I grew up in upstate NY), I haven't had the chance to participate, but it does look like they have a lot of fun. Perhaps someday.

Dave
O'Days 222 and 25
FWIW, an O'day owner named Christian Campbell who sails his O-25 on Lake Champlain is looking for other Champlain O'dayers in hopes of organizing a rOnDAYvous up there. He had posted his query on a Facebook O'day owners page, and I steered him here. Hopefully, some of you folks will connect online, and then get together face to face.

This is year #9 for the rOnDAYvous I've been involved in, and it's still a blast. C'mon down to Newport Marina in Jersey City, NJ, the weekend of July 15-17. You won't regret it.

Pete
s/v EmmieLou (O-322)
Little Silver, NJ
 
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