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Smithy

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Dec 13, 2010
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Macgregor 22 Alexandria, VA
Good afternoon. I just purchased a 22', and found your forum here. My name is Chris, and I've been on the water one way or another since I was about 3, fishing with parents and grandparents. I learned to sail about 17 years ago on a sunfish, and have moved up and developed my skills on borrowed or rented boats every year since then. I typically rent out in San Diego when I attend conferences there every summer, and take their Cat 25's out on the bay. I have crewed for a friend who owns a Hunter 38. I am very familiar with what a sail boat does on the water, even though I haven't taken the time to learn every formal nautical term for parts or actions.

My boat is in okay condition, being a 1972 in need of some TLC. The exterior is in pretty good shape, in need of only a solid cleaning, and new grab-handles on the roof. The interior is another story - worthy of a complete gutting and rebuild.

Fortunately, and part of the reason I got this boat, is that I work with a Scout troop. They've been talking about having a sailing adventure for 2 or 3 years now. The perfect storm has arrived - a boat in need of work, and several willing hands for labor.

My plan is to get new foam for all the cushions, and sew new covers for them. My boat has the portside quarterberth, with a funky kitchenette forward of it - a worthless little sink connected to nothing, and an old dorm fridge with a lock on the door. Those will come out, and become a gear locker, and I intend to build another berth at the main deckline or thereabouts, supported forward at the V-berth deck level, with supports added at the hull and long struts at the foot (aft) and over the gear locker. It will resemble submarine berths, with about 18 inches of headspace for those two beds, but I'm looking to pack 4 youth and 2 adults in this thing for long weekend cruises.

That's the major structural need, but the interior needs a new coat of paint, the head needs sprucing up, and other little cosmetic improvements all around to close up some of the empty space, insulate the cabin, and provide for organized stowage. I'll likely start a restoration thread for this boat once we get going, and post updates there.

Otherwise, I look forward to getting to know everyone here a little better, and learn from everyone else. Especially the little nits and details of this model, since we're providing all our own labor, and have little fundraising in place to pay for "professional help".
 
Jun 12, 2010
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Oday 22 Orleans Marina, NOLA
I also purchased an older boat that was in sound condition but needed some TLC. Very doable if you're not afraid of tools and even a little bit handy.

You're mention of scouts reminded me of my father who was a Sea Scout when he was a kid in New Orleans. I don't know if Sea Scouts still exist, but they would sail out to Cat and Ship Island in place of weekend camping trips like the boy scouts. I always thought that was a really great concept.
 

Smithy

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Dec 13, 2010
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Macgregor 22 Alexandria, VA
Sea Scouts apparently do exist, but they operate completely separate from the "normal" landlubbers, who I've been with for nigh on 20 years now. I've served at the District Committee level, and never heard so much as a whisper about our nautical bretheren. A cursory online check reveals quite a few Ships operating in the Chesapeake and Potomac waterways, where I live, and while I'm not sure I want to try and charter a whole new unit, taking my current Varsity and Venture age boys out on the water this summer will certainly broaden their horizons.

I have the perfect 2-day cruise picked out, as a keystone to the event, too. Sail from Pohick Bay, just south of DC, 20 miles downstream to Mallows Bay - the site of nearly 160 burned hulls of WWI steamships that never saw service. Tell ghost stories, explore the wrecks, take pictures, overnight, and sail back the next day.
 
Jul 29, 2010
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Macgregor 76 V-25 #928 Lake Mead, Nevada
Good afternoon. I just purchased a 22', and found your forum here. My name is Chris, and I've been on the water one way or another since I was about 3, fishing with parents and grandparents. I learned to sail about 17 years ago on a sunfish, and have moved up and developed my skills on borrowed or rented boats every year since then. I typically rent out in San Diego when I attend conferences there every summer, and take their Cat 25's out on the bay. I have crewed for a friend who owns a Hunter 38. I am very familiar with what a sail boat does on the water, even though I haven't taken the time to learn every formal nautical term for parts or actions.

My boat is in okay condition, being a 1972 in need of some TLC. The exterior is in pretty good shape, in need of only a solid cleaning, and new grab-handles on the roof. The interior is another story - worthy of a complete gutting and rebuild.

Fortunately, and part of the reason I got this boat, is that I work with a Scout troop. They've been talking about having a sailing adventure for 2 or 3 years now. The perfect storm has arrived - a boat in need of work, and several willing hands for labor.

My plan is to get new foam for all the cushions, and sew new covers for them. My boat has the portside quarterberth, with a funky kitchenette forward of it - a worthless little sink connected to nothing, and an old dorm fridge with a lock on the door. Those will come out, and become a gear locker, and I intend to build another berth at the main deckline or thereabouts, supported forward at the V-berth deck level, with supports added at the hull and long struts at the foot (aft) and over the gear locker. It will resemble submarine berths, with about 18 inches of headspace for those two beds, but I'm looking to pack 4 youth and 2 adults in this thing for long weekend cruises.

That's the major structural need, but the interior needs a new coat of paint, the head needs sprucing up, and other little cosmetic improvements all around to close up some of the empty space, insulate the cabin, and provide for organized stowage. I'll likely start a restoration thread for this boat once we get going, and post updates there.

Otherwise, I look forward to getting to know everyone here a little better, and learn from everyone else. Especially the little nits and details of this model, since we're providing all our own labor, and have little fundraising in place to pay for "professional help".
Chris - Our second boat, Penny Sue Too was a V-222. Had many enjoyable hours aboard. See the quote attached to my reply...Fair Winds and Full Sails...
 
Nov 9, 2008
1,338
Pearson-O'Day 290 Portland Maine
Chris,

Welcome to the forum, though you are really an old family member. You'll find a gazzillion folks dying to lend their knowledge. And a few that are worth listening to! Not me though. I bought a boat, with no trailer, no truck and no sailing experience! Long story. Anyway, sounds like she's gonna be a great boat.
 
Oct 18, 2007
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Macgregor 26S Lucama, NC
Welcome, Chris. I also work with a Scout troop. I'm planning on taking my boys out some next spring and summer, on the NC sounds. Good luck with your boat and plans. -Paul
 

Smithy

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Dec 13, 2010
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Macgregor 22 Alexandria, VA
Thanks for the warm welcomes. I go to haul the boat home tomorrow. There's about 4 or 5 inches of water in it right now, mostly ice at the moment. Which means a slow, careful haul. I'll wait for a halfway decent day above freezing, and go boil a few gallons of water to pour in on top of the ice, and probably dump some antifreeze in as well, before pumping out. That's step one, of what are sure to be about 100 in the restoration of this beast.

I'm sure the support of this community will help out a lot. Again, thanks.
 
Jul 13, 2010
1,097
Precision 23 Perry Hall,Baltimore County
Hi Chris, welcome. In case you missed it, John Kelley wrote in his Washinton Post collumn just a few days ago about the Mallow Bay fleet. In my Precision 18, I used a shop vac and long narrow extension to get the last of the water out from next to the centerboard housing. Good luck with your project.
 

Smithy

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Dec 13, 2010
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Macgregor 22 Alexandria, VA
How neat. I hadn't seen that.

I thought about getting a new shop vac, but Harbor Freight's selling a pump for just over $20 that's very tempting for this task.
 
Jan 19, 2010
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Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Hi Chris,

I recently downsized to a Mac V222. Also a 1972. I've been pleasantly surprised in how well she sails. She is fast for a 22' and responsive. I found mine abandoned in a fellow's back yard ($800) on a trailer with a set of 5 decent sails. The inside was full of hornet nests and rats had made a home in the foam. Needless to say the entire interior is new wood now. And I have a fast little boat and a set of sails that lets me take her out in a decent blow. Hope you have a blast with yours.

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Smithy

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Dec 13, 2010
162
Macgregor 22 Alexandria, VA
Thanks. I'm sure it's going to take all spring to do the retrofititng. This website is proving an excellent resource, full of just fantastic ideas. I'll be starting a thread on my restoration soon enough - gotta go pick it up now.
 
Nov 9, 2008
1,338
Pearson-O'Day 290 Portland Maine
Don't be afraid of rock salt either. What's the diff? Ocean or rock salt.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,199
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
How neat. I hadn't seen that.

I thought about getting a new shop vac, but Harbor Freight's selling a pump for just over $20 that's very tempting for this task.
IMHO you'd spend you dollars more wisely by purchasing an inexpensive shop vac, such as the "stinger" than a dubious quality pump from Harbor Freight. Since the shop vac is portable you can keep it in the boat for future needs. The pump will be a one time use, assuming it's got the capacity to lift the water out of the boat anyway.

I've seen this and similar products at big box stores for around $30. Good investment for the boat.

http://reviews.homedepot.com/1999/100021998/2-5-gallon-1-3-4-hp-wet-dry-vacuum-reviews/reviews.htm

 

TAK

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Nov 29, 2009
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Beneteau 381 Punta Gorda
Ditto on the 'ship vac', I bought the same one last month for the boat. Worked great sucking the pencil zinc debris from the end of the heat exchanger.
 

Smithy

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Dec 13, 2010
162
Macgregor 22 Alexandria, VA
I almost bought the pump today, but didn't. Figured the shop vac would be the better use of the money.

I started a 'restoration' thread under the Macgregor section. That's where I'll be logging the progress of this little boat. Thanks again for the welcome and all the great advice.
 
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