Does anyone use the main halyard to hoist the dingy outboard onto the the stern rail motor mount on their sailboat? how well or not well does it work?
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Sigbear
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Sigbear
Hoisting The Dingy Outboard W/Main Halyard?
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That method is a royal pain because it takes two to do it - one to grind the mast winch and the other 'steer' the halyard + OB.
I quickly abandoned that method and now use a 4:1 tackle with cam cleat and connect it to a sling over the boom ... only needs one operator. Downside with this method is that this method delivers the OB to the side deck and the OB then has to be carried to its mount on the sternrail.
I quickly abandoned that method and now use a 4:1 tackle with cam cleat and connect it to a sling over the boom ... only needs one operator. Downside with this method is that this method delivers the OB to the side deck and the OB then has to be carried to its mount on the sternrail.
Same here....
Tried using the main halyard initially and opted instead to go with the main halyard in a fixed position and a Schaefer block and tackle setup which they sell as a boom vang or "preventer". It has a cam cleat on one of the blocks and works well with one person. I've got an 8hp Johnson 2-cycle that weighs around 60 pounds and got the largest one they had at the time which was several years ago.
The larger one had larger diameter line so it wouldn't cut into the skin as much. Not cheap but probably cheaper than ruining the back. Came with snap shackles on each end.
One problem is keeping the lines from criss-crossing when stowing the system so one has to be careful otherwise it'll take a few minutes to un-do the lines. Be sure to have a stopper knot in the bitter end.
Also, the outboard tends to bang on the side of the hull so one has to either hold the halyard or vang out away from the boat or have a soft cover over the motor head.
The really good part is one can set the outboard down on the transom of the dingy without having to worry about it going into Davy Jones' locker.
Every setup is a little bit different so one will have to experiment around with what works in your particular situation.
The good part is I also use the vang/preventer as a preventer! You need one of those anyway.
Tried using the main halyard initially and opted instead to go with the main halyard in a fixed position and a Schaefer block and tackle setup which they sell as a boom vang or "preventer". It has a cam cleat on one of the blocks and works well with one person. I've got an 8hp Johnson 2-cycle that weighs around 60 pounds and got the largest one they had at the time which was several years ago.
The larger one had larger diameter line so it wouldn't cut into the skin as much. Not cheap but probably cheaper than ruining the back. Came with snap shackles on each end.
One problem is keeping the lines from criss-crossing when stowing the system so one has to be careful otherwise it'll take a few minutes to un-do the lines. Be sure to have a stopper knot in the bitter end.
Also, the outboard tends to bang on the side of the hull so one has to either hold the halyard or vang out away from the boat or have a soft cover over the motor head.
The really good part is one can set the outboard down on the transom of the dingy without having to worry about it going into Davy Jones' locker.
Every setup is a little bit different so one will have to experiment around with what works in your particular situation.
The good part is I also use the vang/preventer as a preventer! You need one of those anyway.
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One problem is keeping the lines from criss-crossing when stowing the system so one has to be careful otherwise it'll take a few minutes to un-do the lines. Be sure to have a stopper knot in the bitter end.
John, suggest you just two-block the vang blocks and simply coil the line easily. I do it with our bosuns chair blocks and line.
We use a Garhauer motor lift.
John, suggest you just two-block the vang blocks and simply coil the line easily. I do it with our bosuns chair blocks and line.
We use a Garhauer motor lift.
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Our boat didn't come with a boom vang so I bought one from Gaurhauer to be used as a boom vang but more specifically to also use as a motor lift from the end of the boom. I usually take the main halyard and attach it to the end of the boom as a backup to the topping lift. Our motor is a 9.9 Yamaha and weighs 80 or 90 pounds so I don't feel comfortable having all that weight hanging off the back of the boat from the rail so I hang it on the inside. For us, the trick is to get the boom angled up enough to allow the motor to clear the lifelines but not too high so that the end of the boom does not reach out far enough to lift the motor straight up from the dinghy. For us, this is what works. We only pull the motor and dinghy on board when we're sailing outside of the protection of the islands that make up out cruising grounds.
Our boat didn't come with a boom vang so I bought one from Gaurhauer to be used as a boom vang but more specifically to also use as a motor lift from the end of the boom. I usually take the main halyard and attach it to the end of the boom as a backup to the topping lift. Our motor is a 9.9 Yamaha and weighs 80 or 90 pounds so I don't feel comfortable having all that weight hanging off the back of the boat from the rail so I hang it on the inside. For us, the trick is to get the boom angled up enough to allow the motor to clear the lifelines but not too high so that the end of the boom does not reach out far enough to lift the motor straight up from the dinghy. For us, this is what works. We only pull the motor and dinghy on board when we're sailing outside of the protection of the islands that make up out cruising grounds.
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Shackle the tackle to the end of the main halyard and secure it. Halyard permits optimum adjustment of tackle block height.
My split backstay adjustment tackle has a snap shackle top and bottom. Primarily, it is to have a tackle available quickly to assist an incapacitated person up the boarding ladder next to the backstay. Unclip the bottom, slide the adjuster up and secure with a sail tie, grab the rope with a loop and snap shackle kept in the seat locker, and snap into the POB harness.
Same tackle can be quickly moved and hooked to the boom vang bail, other halyards, or wherever needed in emergency.
Witzend, I thought of that too. I figured that if I had a spinnaker pole, I'd strap that to the boom so the end of the pole was directly over the rail. Then I'd attach the main halyard to the end of the pole with my boom vang as a hoist. Problem is, I'd need a spinnaker pole.
My dad made an outboard lift out of plywood, basically copying the Forespar design. Stands on the deck, lashed to the stern pushpit, block and tackle on the end. I'll see if he can take some digital photos and post.
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