[Hold door for people when I was very clearly at the coffee shop door WELL before them and then see if they also took my spot in line or were respectful enough to grant me my rightfully deserved spot in the line after graciously holding the door for them.[ /quote]
When you hold open the door, you let them go ahead of you.
After thinking about this for some time, it seems to me the only reason you held the door open was to see if the person would respond by giving you their place in line. Expecting something in return isn’t manners, it’s work.
When you use manners, you don't care the outcome.
Manners go both way's Dan! Whether the line is one deep or ten plus deep and someone holds the door for me they ALWAYS get offered their place in line, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS.
I NEVER and would NEVER walk through a held door then cut the door holder in line, RUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I simply say thank you ,step to the side and grant them their position in line. Sometimes they grant it to you but MOST times they WANT the position in line and take it when you step to the side and grant it. TRY IT! If they had NOT held the door they would have rightly been there anyway. They did a POLITE deed by holding the door I give a POLITE response by stepping aside. Let's also not forget that MANY folks DO get this but the younger the crowd the less they seemed to get common sense & simple manners. Most all males over 30 stepped aside, as I do, as did most couples.
I find it incredibly rude that the offer to hold the door also AUTOMATICALLY grants someone two plus more minutes of your time without so much as a "check" response to see if that was in fact your intent. Not only was that how I was raised but that to me just seems to be common sense, but we have less and less of that these days.
I am certainly getting a better understanding of the thinking of what I consider to be rude behavior by some of the justification in this thread to taking a held door, then also the holders place in line under the ASSUMPTION that they ALL offered it by holding the door....
The idea that some won't even step to the side once in the door, where a line is present, doing so in a reciprocal polite response boggles me?
Ask yourself who would have been in line FIRST if the holder had not held the door. Do you at least offer the spot in line if you accept a held door or do you just ASSUME that was the intent of the door holder? As I see it, and was raised, the spot in line should ALWAYS be at the least offered back to the door holder. If they don't take it, at least you did your part to be POLITE and reciprocated the nice gesture. There are MANY times when I do not accept the spot in line but ALWAYS appreciate the kind manners when someone offers it to me.
Take, take take is just rude, rude, rude IMHO but it is the society we live in. A simple offer of the line spot, after a held door, is the POLITE response. Manners go BOTH ways. For me, a held door begets a polite response when there is a line involved, ALWAYS. I guess that is to complex a situation for some folks to understand..
