Looking for BlueChart US002R Southern Maine CD

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Nov 9, 2008
1,338
Pearson-O'Day 290 Portland Maine
Title says it all. I just purchased a used Garmin GPSMAP 76C and it doesn't take data cards so I'm looking for somebody that might have a copy of this region that they'd like to sell. I don't believe the G2 maps would work. If you do have a copy, please contact me privately.


This may not be the right place to post this so let me apologize in advance if I offend.


Fair Winds!

Don
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,360
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
I don't think you can do that. Garmin usually requires an "unlock" code to allow the use of charts on their handheld units.
 
Nov 22, 2008
3,562
Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
I don't think you can do that.
You're right. Garmin has this locked up tight. The charts for the whole country come on one CD and you purchase unlock codes for individual regions like southern Maine. The individual GPS information has to be entered at the time you download the unlock code and the charts are then encoded with this information so that they can only be read by one of the 2 GPS units you are permitted to use with that unlocked chart section.

He will need to contact Garmin and get out the credit card.
 
Nov 22, 2008
3,562
Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
Welcome to the world of Garmin. You are about to start dealing with one of the most ironclad copy protection schemes in the world. Abandon all hope and be prepared to shell out about $150 buck to get charts into your GPS.
 
Nov 9, 2008
1,338
Pearson-O'Day 290 Portland Maine
Will the unlock codes not work if included? I'm not looking for a copy. I'm hoping that somebody's GPS became unserviceable or lost, so they upgraded to a unit that requires SD cards or something and the CD is now a dust collector. If I wanted, I could download any BlueChart I wanted thru a torrent, including unlock codes. But, no bootlegging in this house. I own all my software, all my CDs, all my movies. I leave my pirating to more piratey things!

http://costumesofmaine.com/pirates.htm
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
E-Bay

Look E-Bay or do google search for Garmin charts,yes they Garmin sure make you pay pay dearly for those charts.
My friend has the blue charts for Florida and he could not down load it on mY handheld with out a key code.
Nick
 
Nov 22, 2008
3,562
Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
Will the unlock codes not work if included?
That's right. When unlocked, the charts are encoded with a number recorded in the firmware of your specific GPS. You have to have the individual GPS unit that the charts were unlocked for.

The system actually works quite well aside from the wallet pain. An unlocked region costs less than what paper charts would cost for the same area and is comparable to chart books so it isn't unreasonable.

What is unreasonable is this:

I was putting new batteries in my GPS about four hours before leaving for a cruise and the battery connector spring broke off rendering the GPS unusable. I ran out and bought another GPS of the same model (GPSmap 76Cx) and contacted Garmin technical support to get new unlock codes so I could load charts in it. The rep said that he couldn't send me new codes until I returned the old GPS so they could be sure I wasn't selling it on Ebay with the charts unlocked.

I don't usually swear at tech support people but this was an exception and the air was blue. I pointed out that I had just bought, and registered on their web site, the exact same model so, what was I gaining? I asked, what happens if I'm in the middle of a cruise, my GPS fails, and have to buy another one? Do I stay there for 10 days waiting for UPS and Garmin to do their thing? Are you suggesting I just put off my departure or go without GPS on the off chance that I'm pirating your charts?

I finally took a digital picture of the GPS with the serial number visible and clearly showing the broken connector spring and emailed it to the rep. New unlock codes for all the charts I had purchased came back by email within minutes.

All this took a couple of hours when I was pretty rushed trying to get the boat ready. Imagine going through this someplace without cell phone service or Internet standing in a phone booth in the hot sun with a pile of quarters. Since you can only have two GPS units active, even having a spare on board wouldn't spare you this unless you had purchased separate unlock codes for it at the full price.

After this experience, I figured out how to stick a piece of metal in my broken GPS to make it work. I wouldn't depend on it for primary navigation but it sits in a locker with all the unlocked charts loaded it in. Because it has been de-registered from the Garmin system, I can no longer load additional or updated charts to it. However, I was able to copy the single file that contains the charts from the chip and save it on the laptop I carry. I have verified that I can reload this file to another Mini SD card and the charts will work in the GPS. However, if I stick this card in my other unit, it will not read the charts. Like I said, they have this locked down solid. I'm probably in technical violation of their terms of use but this GPS would only be used in emergency if my two registered units died so it comes under the fair use provision that lets you keep a back up copy of computer software.

Later: I see from Maine Sail's posts below that this information is somewhat out of date. Evidently, the preloaded Micro SD cards you get from Garmin are not unit specific and prices have come down considerably. That's good news because I like my Garmin set up except for the cost of the charts.
 
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Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Scrib,

One thing I learned with Garmin is to never buy a unit that only has internal memory. You may pay less for the unit but Garmin makes it up in the long run.:doh:

If you just bought the 76C from West Marine you can return it and get the 76cx that is currently on sale for $179.00 which is a $170.00 savings! Only Portsmouth and a couple of other stores have them left and they went fast.

The 76cx has a card slot for a mini-SD card which the 76C does not and the 76C only has 115mb of internal memory which is not even enough for the Northeast data set. These pre-made Garmin chips/cards will work in ANY future Garmin unit that takes SD or mini-SD. I ALWAYS buy the pre-made Garmin chart kits because I am not limited like the downloads are. Internal memory Garmin hand helds are save now but pay later..:cussing:

I just bought a 76cx and the ENTIRE US including the BC coast, Hawaii and Alaska, it's on a 4GB chip, for under $140.00. A download of just one small area will run you at least $99.00 and what if you want to sail to MDI or beyond someday? Another $99.00. With downloads and internal memory you are locked and loaded to only that unit and one perhaps other. I can take my chip on anyone's boat who has a Garmin that uses SD or mini-SD and can do the same with my Blue Chart chips too and have done so many times. When we go to Florida I throw my HH in the bag and use if when we rent boats in Vero Beach.

You might want to seriously consider the 76cx ($179.00 on sale at WM) because it has a chip slot and will not confine you to being held hostage by Garmin's download policy..

Just a thought.. I did not need a 76cx but for $179.00 how could I pass it up.;) Oh and for $499.00 I was totally un-impressed with the new 78 series compared to a 76cx for $179.00...
 

SirWm

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Sep 27, 2008
25
Macgregor 26S Evansville, IN
Main Sail

I just purchased a 76cx from WM. Are you saying that I may be able to buy these chips "used" and use them in my GPS without paying Garmin?
 
Nov 9, 2008
1,338
Pearson-O'Day 290 Portland Maine
I bought the 76C off Ebay. It's chock full of BlueCharts . . . for Alaska. So, I guess I either live with the rudimentary information provided or shell out another $100 + for the CD. Since it's a nice to have not a need to have, Ill probably go with new halyards instead. Or maybe I'll wait for St. Nicholas, who happens to be the patron saint of sailors (among others). Thanks guys. I'm more informed and more depressed.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Main Sail

I just purchased a 76cx from WM. Are you saying that I may be able to buy these chips "used" and use them in my GPS without paying Garmin?
If you can find the small Garmin SD charts for your area then yes. These are not the full size SD cards but the mini ones..
 

SirWm

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Sep 27, 2008
25
Macgregor 26S Evansville, IN
If you can find the small Garmin SD charts for your area then yes. These are not the full size SD cards but the mini ones..
Thanks MS
That information is NOT readily available on their web site:cussing:
 

Bob S

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Sep 27, 2007
1,813
Beneteau 393 New Bedford, MA
Maine,

I just bought a 76cx and the ENTIRE East coast, a 4GB chip, for under $140.00
May I ask where you bought that. I've had my unit for a year and have never used it for more than an anchor alarm. I use a C70 mounted at the wheel. I would like to get charts for it and that seems reasonable.

Bob
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
Yes

Yes you can shop around on EBay Amazon and many other places at good deals but will be many different chart size for cheap,I got topo chart CD really cheap but shop shop many good deals on the internet but as mentioned many different size SD cards or CD.
I use my 76cx for Kayaking in Florida and use the metro and topo CD for routing the many water trails and as a back up for my Raymarine C-80 but really never needed or use it on theboat the C-80 does every thing so much better than the 76cx,yes a lot more$$$$.
Nick
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Maine,



May I ask where you bought that. I've had my unit for a year and have never used it for more than an anchor alarm. I use a C70 mounted at the wheel. I would like to get charts for it and that seems reasonable.

Bob

Bob,

It is a Micro SD card with SD adapter . The model # of the chip is HXUS039R JUL 2010

Search:

Garmin Bluechart G2 USA Chart on microSD/SD - HXUS039R

It is actually the entire country plus BC, Alaska and Hawaii and the list price is $149.00. It can be found for slightly less..

http://www.thegpsstore.com/Garmin-Bluechart-G2-USA-Chart-on-microSDSD-HXUS039R-P2098.aspx
 

Bob S

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Sep 27, 2007
1,813
Beneteau 393 New Bedford, MA
Thanks Maine,

I googled it and found it at Abe's of Maine. These units use micro SD cards, why do you get the SD adapter?
 
Nov 22, 2008
3,562
Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
why do you get the SD adapter?
The SD adapter lets you stick the card in an SD card reader and make a back up. I can do this with my unlocked Blue Charts. The unlock into one big file that is encoded with my GPS unit number an only works on that machine. However, I can rewrite the file from the computer hard disk to another Mini SD card and it will work in the GPS. I keep a copy on my on board lap top in case my GPS card gets corrupted.

I haven't worked with the Garmin pre-loaded Mini SD cards but you might be able to do the same thing. If anyone know, I'd appreciate hearing.
 
Jul 28, 2010
914
Boston Whaler Montauk New Orleans
There's a local guy here who posts a LOT on another forum. Very knowledgeable about all things electronic, particularly GPS and depth sounders. He's very familiar with Garmin. His business is Southshore Marine Services, and the website is http://www.myshopkart.net/southshore/ A phone number is on the website, and when I get home tonight, I can get his e-mail address.

Barrett is his name, and he can answer most, if not all, of your questions.
 
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