Chaineplats

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Nov 26, 2009
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oday 25 Munice Sailing Club
My son and I are redoing an ODAY25. The last owner had removed the bulkheads.He had cut new bulkheads but had not installed them. Can someone please tell me how to locate the holes for the chainplates?

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MikeC
 
Dec 8, 2006
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Oday 26 Starr, SC
My son and I are redoing an ODAY25. The last owner had removed the bulkheads.He had cut new bulkheads but had not installed them. Can someone please tell me how to locate the holes for the chainplates?

Thanks
MikeC
Mike,

Give us some more information. Do you mean on deck or on the inside of the bulkheads?

Do you have old bulkheads?

And you can post pictures to this forum. That also helps.

Ed K
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Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
My son and I are redoing an ODAY25. The last owner had removed the bulkheads.He had cut new bulkheads but had not installed them. Can someone please tell me how to locate the holes for the chainplates?

Thanks
MikeC
I think that your best bet Mike is to find someone who has an O'Day 25 similar to yours and ask if you can take some measurements. I would be more concerned with the measurements of the chainplates on the deck as opposed to the bulkhead. Your side stays have to fit in the same way that they did before the PO removed them. So the height of the turnbuckle toggle holes, as well as the exact location in relation to the gunwale and the side of the cabin need to be taken into consideration. Years ago, I installed two O'Day 25 chainplates on my O'Day 222 and I had no holes to go by. My original chainplates consisted of two "U" type bolts with "L" brackets mounted on my bulkhead. I had to wind up cutting the slots in my deck to accommodate the chainplate bars. The bars are angled at the top where the stays connect. So after talking to Rudy at D&R Marine where I bought the OD 25 chainplates, he said that the holes should be level with the deck and this means that the chainplates will be on an angle toward the center of the cabin. Once you get the deck dimensions right, the bulkhead should come right. I beefed up my bulkhead with solid oak in the V berth section and bolted the chainplates through the oak. The oak is also bolted to the settees in my cabin. This worked out great for my boat with the exception of water eventually getting in around the chainplates and soaking the areas of my bulkhead, which is what caused the demise of the bulkhead on your boat. So I had stainless steel covers made up and welded to my chainplates on the deck with bolts holes for extra strength and to keep the water out. My problems were solved after that. You don't have to go the same route I did with the Oak and welded chainplate covers. Just get the measurements right on the deck and put it back the way they had it set up at the factory. Keep them caulked and check to make sure that it never leaks again. I hope that I was able to offer you a little insight on what is really important to getting the stays to fit right. Check out my pictures under Owner's Photo Album- OD 222- Trinkka. Good Luck!
Joe
 

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Sep 25, 2008
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Oday 25 Gibraltar
My son and I are redoing an ODAY25. The last owner had removed the bulkheads.He had cut new bulkheads but had not installed them. Can someone please tell me how to locate the holes for the chainplates?

Thanks
MikeC
If you've got the chainplates I can take some measurements and pix off of my boat. You should be able to get it close enough to work. What year is your boat?

Rich
 
Nov 26, 2009
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oday 25 Munice Sailing Club
Joe;
Thanks for the good advice and pictures. I really liked the idea of yours about welding the plate around the chainplate. If only the designers had only though of this it would have saved us a lot of work.
Thanks again;
Mike
 
Nov 26, 2009
18
oday 25 Munice Sailing Club
Rich;
Yes I do have the chainplates. So if you could send me some info.it would be a great help. The boat is 1977.
Thanks very much;
Mike
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Joe;
Thanks for the good advice and pictures. I really liked the idea of yours about welding the plate around the chain plate. If only the designers had only though of this it would have saved us a lot of work.
Thanks again;
Mike
My pleasure Mike. I got the idea for the plates from Rudy at D&R Marine, and the plates are a great idea, but careful measurements must be taken before making them up for the bolts. There is plenty of room for the bolts and back up plates in the main cabin whereas the chainplates are bolted on that side, but the thickness of the bulkhead has to be taken into consideration for the plate bolts to come through on the back side or V berth section of the bulkhead. Consequently, the plate may need to be longer toward the bow. This never occurred to me when I brought my boat down to the Marine welder, but it all worked out in the end. He made the plates, fitted them and put a couple of tack welds. Then I removed the chainplates and he finished the job. I later had to do a little chisel work on my oak back up boards to accommodate the back up plates and nuts w/bolts. As I look back now the efforts, time and money were worth it.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Here some measurements and pics to help you position your chainplates.



I measured between the chainplates at the bottom inside corner and at the point inside the cabin where they go up thru the cabin top. And also from the top of the chainplate to the nonskid on the deck. If you have the cover plates and the screw holes still in the deck you shouldn't have any trouble positioning the chainplates from side to side.




The chainplates are angled inward-




Here's a shot of the chainplates mounted on the forward side of the bulkheads. This will give you an idea of the angle (The string is actually straight. Distortion from the camera makes it look like it's sagging). I think you'll be alright as long as you're close. You might try to get the angle from these photos. The critical measurement is the height above the deck. I'm assuming that there wasn't any design changes in the years between our boats. Of course Rudy would probably know if there were.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Oday 25 Gibraltar
Gee, what I thinking? I forgot to measure from the inside hull over to the chainplate. I'll try to get those today.

Rich
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Oday 25 Gibraltar
Here's the measurement to the inside hull.



When you fit the bulkheads into place there should be a good sized gap between it and the hull and then fiberglassed to it.



Rich
 
Dec 8, 2006
1,085
Oday 26 Starr, SC
Rich

Here's the measurement to the inside hull.



When you fit the bulkheads into place there should be a good sized gap between it and the hull and then fiberglassed to it.



Rich
Rich,

Those bulkheads sure look good.

Ed K
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Bye the way, are you any good with MS Word? I keep getting this pop up:
 

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Nov 26, 2009
18
oday 25 Munice Sailing Club
Thanks fellows for all the great info. Like I said this is the first boat for my son and I. we are trying to take it one step at a time and it sure helps to have people that are willing to take the time to help us.
Thanks again;
Mike
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Here some measurements and pics to help you position your chain plates.



I measured between the chain plates at the bottom inside corner and at the point inside the cabin where they go up thru the cabin top. And also from the top of the chainplate to the nonskid on the deck. If you have the cover plates and the screw holes still in the deck you shouldn't have any trouble positioning the chainplates from side to side.




The chainplates are angled inward-




Here's a shot of the chainplates mounted on the forward side of the bulkheads. This will give you an idea of the angle (The string is actually straight. Distortion from the camera makes it look like it's sagging). I think you'll be alright as long as you're close. You might try to get the angle from these photos. The critical measurement is the height above the deck. I'm assuming that there wasn't any design changes in the years between our boats. Of course Rudy would probably know if there were.
Rich,
Looking at the picture of your chainplates, I can see that your chainplates are straight up and down, whereas, mine are at an angle in the cabin, but if you think about that for a minute, the stays on the 25s are cut to fit that exact angle where they connect on to the plates. By the same token, in spite of the fact that my old chain plates were configured like "U" bolts that were placed on my deck so that they were in line fore and aft, by placing my OD 25 chainplates at an angle, I was able to get my stays to fit them. I'm glad you showed him a picture of your chainplate setup, because my setup wouldn't have worked on his boat. Oh well, it all worked out for the best.
Joe
 
Nov 26, 2009
18
oday 25 Munice Sailing Club
Thanks fellows for all the help with the chainplates. I think that I can take it from here and move on to my next problem.
Mike
 
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