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Zoomie

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Aug 14, 2009
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Oday 222 Lake Tillery, NC
All,
Would someone be willing to provide the demensions from their boat's factory boom vang attachment points. I need to know the distance from the aft end casting of the boom to the aft edge of the Stainless bracket mounted on the boom that holds the swaged cable end. Also I need the distance up from the foot of the mast casting to the bottom of the pad eye on the forward portion of the mast that retains the other end of the vang via a line around the mast. Thanks, Zoom :dance:
 
Joe11688

Joe11688

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Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Zoomie said:
All,
Would someone be willing to provide the demensions from their boat's factory boom vang attachment points. I need to know the distance from the aft end casting of the boom to the aft edge of the Stainless bracket mounted on the boom that holds the swaged cable end. Also I need the distance up from the foot of the mast casting to the bottom of the pad eye on the forward portion of the mast that retains the other end of the vang via a line around the mast. Thanks, Zoom :dance:
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Hey Zoom!
I don't know what kind of a set up you have for a boom vang or the brand of your spars, but my 1986 O'Day 222 has Z-Spar Diffusion spars with internal halyards and internal control lines in the boom for the reefing, topping lift, and the out haul. My boom is approximately 10' 3" long and it has a built in track for the three small eye straps which are used for the boom vang and the main sheet block and tackle. I use the end eye strap for my sail jock. The boom vang eye strap is exactly 31 1/2" from the goose neck. The bottom of the boom vang connects to anything you can install at the base of the mast. I have a stainless steel mast hinge tabernacle and a utility plate under it now, which I had installed. I had cut the back of the utility plate a few years ago because it was interfering with my mast raising equipment, but this plate had three holes in it and I used to connect my boom vang to it. My boom vang resembles the same type of block and tackle arrangement as my main sheet, only the vang has two fiddle blocks with two sheave each, and my main sheet has two fiddle blocks, one with two sheaves, and one with a single sheave. I hope this helps.
Joe
 

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Zoomie

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Aug 14, 2009
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Oday 222 Lake Tillery, NC
Thanks Joe for the reply! My mast and boom are Dwyer (DAMCO). The config is factory I believe so no accessory plate under the mast mounting point (although I've considered one from D&R. Anyone else have the factory config with a DAMCO mast boom that could provide some dimensions?
 
Joe11688

Joe11688

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Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Zoomie said:
Thanks Joe for the reply! My mast and boom are Dwyer (DAMCO). The config is factory I believe so no accessory plate under the mast mounting point (although I've considered one from D&R. Anyone else have the factory config with a DAMCO mast boom that could provide some dimensions?
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OK, so you must have external halyards and a stainless steel tabernacle hinge. If so, you could buy the utility plate to install under the tabernacle, or you could also install a bale at the bottom of the mast, which would be a lot easier. There's probably a rule of thumb on where to place the bale on the boom for vang attachment. Check out a book by Wallace Ross entitled, "Sail Power."
Joe
 
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Aug 14, 2009
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Oday 222 Lake Tillery, NC
Rudy indicates that it should be 45 degrees to the mast installation attachment point. I am thinking I may step the mast and just install a halyard organizer plate and be done with that end of it. I'll then just measure out the same distance on the boom, drilll and install the bracket with some stainless pull rivets (sounds easy enough anyway):).
 
RichBone

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Sep 25, 2008
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Oday 25 Gibraltar
Before you install the vang check to see how handy it is from the cockpit if you have the cleated end attached to the boom. To my eye an attachment point about 30 percent back from the mast looks nice and gives it a little more leverage and is handier.

Rich
 
Joe11688

Joe11688

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Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
RBone said:
Before you install the vang check to see how handy it is from the cockpit if you have the cleated end attached to the boom. To my eye an attachment point about 30 percent back from the mast looks nice and gives it a little more leverage and is handier.

Rich
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Rich,
I know what you mean by having the cam cleat on the block in a handy position because I've had that same problem through the years and it can be solved without changing the angle of the blocks. One of the guys on the forum named Jon had a pretty good idea on this. He added a short cable between the bail on the mast and the bottom of the Vang. In other words, you just extend the point of attachment of the bottom of the vang to get better control. Also, the cam cleat on most boom vangs can be inverted so that the line can be snubbed off in the up position or the down position. You could use anything to raise the lower block. It doesn't have to be cable.
Joe
 
RobG

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Jun 2, 2004
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Ericson 28 Noank, Ct
Zoomie

I have the Dwyer mast and boom. I added the organizer plate and blocks to lead the main halyard and lazy jack lines aft to the cockpit. Also added a boomkicker and vang which I adjust from the companionway easily. I'll take pics this Sat and post here. DAMCO (Dwyer Aluminum Mast Co.) still is in business in CT. and still makes all of the rig parts.
http://www.dwyermast.com/items.asp?...milyID=19&familyName=Halyard+Organizer+Plates
 
RobG

RobG

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Jun 2, 2004
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Ericson 28 Noank, Ct
A couple of pics Zoomie

What you may not make out is the main halyard and the lazy jack lines are led through SS lined fair-leads attached to the front ends of the hatch slider moldings. Simple and no core to worry about. The forward end of the vang attaches to a cast SS threaded eye anchored in the lowest section of the sail track under everything with a home made threaded "slug". It is very strong and no mast drilling needed.
The rope clutch is aligned in such a way to be able to winch the main when needed.
Hope the picks do it. If not I'll try to explain more.

Rob
 

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Mich222

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Oct 20, 2008
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Oday 222 USA
Re: A couple of pics Zoomie

Rob G:
Thanks for the pictures. This looks like the set up I would like to do.

It looks like the sail track cleat used for the mainsail downhaul has been removed- and the function of the downhaul cleat has been replaced with the boomkicker?

Do you have a picture showing the exact placement of the SS lined fair-leads attached to the front ends of the hatch slider moldings? Are the fair-leads thru-bolted on the hatch-slider molding?
 
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RobG

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Jun 2, 2004
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Ericson 28 Noank, Ct
Fairlead placement

Pic I snapped yesterday shows the fairleads and a better view of the organizer plate. The fairleads are mounted out wide enough that the line doesn't rub the gelcoat where it turns the corner.
I never had a downhaul and cleat for it. The mast track was clear down there.
 

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Mich222

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Oct 20, 2008
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Oday 222 USA
Re: Fairlead placement

Thanks RobG: Looks great. I will route as you have done. Mich222
 
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