Another Oday 25 Rebuild Update

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Sep 25, 2008
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I ordered the fabric for the hull liner and it's in a nice big roll in the basement. I decided to hold off on the installation until I put in the new main bulkheads. I finally glassed them in on friday (pictures maybe tomorrow).
Last monday I towed the boat to get it sand blasted- $200 (cheap at twice that price)
Before:


After:


I was then able to see what kind of shape the bottom was in- blisterwise that is.



It's peppered with a lot of small ones. Pencil eraser size and smaller. I've filled them and have some of the sanding done.
The yard has a hoist available and I want to use it to finish sanding and put on the barrier coats and the antifouling paint and be done with it. Then I can get back to the interior.

Rich
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
I ordered the fabric for the hull liner and it's in a nice big roll in the basement. I decided to hold off on the installation until I put in the new main bulkheads. I finally glassed them in on friday (pictures maybe tomorrow).
Last monday I towed the boat to get it sand blasted- $200 (cheap at twice that price)
Before:


After:


I was then able to see what kind of shape the bottom was in- blisterwise that is.



It's peppered with a lot of small ones. Pencil eraser size and smaller. I've filled them and have some of the sanding done.
The yard has a hoist available and I want to use it to finish sanding and put on the barrier coats and the antifouling paint and be done with it. Then I can get back to the interior.

Rich
It's going to look real nice when you get it finished, Rich.
Joe
 
Sep 25, 2008
992
Oday 25 Gibraltar
Here's the bulkheads


Today I got her on the hoist and ready to finish sanding and painting.


Rich
 
Dec 8, 2006
1,085
Oday 26 Starr, SC
Rich, a quick reply

Here's the bulkheads


Today I got her on the hoist and ready to finish sanding and painting.


Rich
Rich,

A quick reply. Your work looks great. Do you have Appleman's pictures? Also there was a guy about a year before Appleman that gutted and rebuilt a boat that posted some good pictures.

I have studied and learned some on fiberglass boat bottoms. My boat's bottom looked a little worse than yours. I got advice from several sources and selected methods based on time and money.

First is most fiberglass boats made during the time our boats were made will suffer blisters. Especially boats left in water year round. Boats that are pulled annually dry out and suffer less, but are not immune.

On top dollar boats restored by professional yards the boats are often pealled and new layer of glass and finish put on. This is difficult, time consuming and expensive. For our boats probably not worth it.

Blistered hulls should be reasonably dried out. Again there are special tools available but expense and time are big factors.

How long does it take to reasonbly dry boat hull? Varies especially on temperatures. In hot summer months, just when most want to sail, drying is best. Drying on fiberglass hulls can be increased by internal heat if the heat gets to the area of hull that has moisture.

So, with your boat try to add heat whenever you can. Direct heat to exposed hull areas and bilge. On our boats we can get heat inside to most areas. Open all the wood covers and force warm air to circulate in bow, under setees and under cockpit.

If you have access to electricity it helps. But DC powered fans and small heaters are better than none.

Fiberglass boats can be covered with tarps and heated from underneath.

How long does this take? Moisture meters are used by yards. But I would use at least 3 months if you do not have meter.

A friend of mine is doing a bottom job on his mid 80's hunter and still finds high moisture content 9 months later. But he has not used any heat. On his boat the hull liner prevents good internal air circulation.

After you are ready to fill holes which approach? There are several formulas for blister fill available. Most used today are vinylester formulas and epoxies.

After having tried both above, I say that they are both good. But I now recommend first painting raw hole with penetrating epoxy first. As soon as it dries to touch, layer up with epoxy paste. As each layer dries to touch layer up again.

You choice of epoxy is yours but choosing one with as little of the chemicals that result in blushing is better, in my opinon. The big name brands usually have that chemical that results in layer blushing. They say that if you layer before epoxy cures then you still get good adhesion.

Anyway you do it, plan to do several layers and sand and fair after hull patches cure. You will likely find more recesses as epoxy cures that you may want to layer up again. I am usually happy with result by about 4th layer.

You will hear many ways to coat bottom. Again, I recommend covering whole bottom with penetrating epioxy. Then coating with sealing epoxy then your high build bottom coat and finnally your bottom paint. Again, and until you get first coat of bottom paint, you should plan to add each coat when first coat dries(cures) to touch but does not cure competely. This is typically about 2 hours or less. When epoxies are just try to touch they still have a long way to be fully cured. When following the above coating process, it is said and I agree you get the best adhesion of layers.

Also, while you are at it, consider painting bilge and any area that might get wet and collect water with penetrating epoxy and a sealing coat of epoxy to reduce moisture penetration into hull.

If you tint epoxies before you apply, you can tell where you have applied layers to insure complete coats. Pigments can be easily obtained from source supplied by Keith. Remember that you are going to bottom paint the whole thing so having layers in different colors will not matter, but insure even coats. Even pastes can be tinted so you can easily see what you are doing.

Best of Luck
Ed K
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Sep 25, 2008
992
Oday 25 Gibraltar
I finally got the barrier coat on the bottom (Interlux 2000). I had plenty of orange peel in the finish and had to sand off the tops of the bumps, losing some of the barrier in the process but I think there should be enough left. Balancing performance with protection.



Rich
 
Sep 25, 2008
992
Oday 25 Gibraltar
Another reason for the sanding is that I couldn't get the anti-fouling paint (Interlux VC 17) on within a 4-5 hour window after application of the last coat.

Here's a pic of the finished bottom-



I'm sleeping a little better now that the bottom is done.

I now must get to the inside and install the hull liner fabric.

Then to the rigging.

Rich
 
Sep 25, 2008
992
Oday 25 Gibraltar
Another reason for the sanding is that I couldn't get the anti-fouling paint (Interlux VC 17) on within a 4-5 hour window after application of the last coat.

Here's a pic of the finished bottom-



I'm sleeping a little better now that the bottom is done.

I now must get to the inside and install the hull liner fabric.

Then to the rigging.

Rich
 
Sep 25, 2008
992
Oday 25 Gibraltar
Sorry about the double post. I seem to be having trouble posting the pix.

Rich
 
Dec 8, 2006
1,085
Oday 26 Starr, SC
Rich,

Nice Job.

Now we have not heard from Rick lately, did Joe run him off?

Ed K
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“Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.” Thomas Alva Edison
 
Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Rich,

Nice Job.

Now we have not heard from Rick lately, did Joe run him off?

Ed K
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“Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.” Thomas Alva Edison
I resemble that remark, Ed. :D That boat came out great! We just got a new member in our club with a 1980 O'Day 25 that he just picked up real cheap. The inside needs work and he finished the outside enough so that he could launch it last week and try it out. He bought a tandem EZ Loader Trailer for it and rigged up four adjustable pads similar to what is used on jack stands. Much to my amazement, he loaded the boat on the trailer from the hard. He's new to sailing, can't swim, but he has a great mechanical mind. I have no doubt that this guy will work wonders with this boat, if he likes it.

The boat looks good Rich!
Joe
 
Oct 2, 2008
1,424
Island Packet 31 Brunswick, Ga
I like the looks of your bulkheads. I have decided to put in painted bulkheads, but trim with the teak. But i am sure having second doubts after seeing yours.
keith
 
Sep 25, 2008
992
Oday 25 Gibraltar
Keith,
White with teak trim looks nice and it's cost effective. I had to buy two sheets of teak ply because I couldn't get both bulkheads on the same one. Missed it by just a small pointed part of the stbd bulkhead. So close. $165.00 a sheet. The two forward bulkheads are in good shape and I think I'll reuse them. They're easily replaced; not being glassed in. I've got to see how they'll clean up first. I have a lot of excess ply on hand what with the new stuff and much of the original (except the rotted parts of course) to work with.
I replaced the compression post- it was rotten on the bottom, but the rest was OK- and I hope that that there is enough of it to use for stringers for the steps.

Rich
 
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