Another candidate for the Darwin Award

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Jul 21, 2005
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Oday 30 Peoria, IL
We just had a 32' sailboat hit and sunk by a barge yesterday in Peoria on the Illinois River. All seven aboard were saved, but the boat is gone. The skipper, a 71 year old man, said the "wind shifted" and blew him into the barge. The river at the point of impact is over a mile wide, and the channel is well marked, as is a very large tow boat/ barge. Can't imagine WHY this man was so very close to the channel. Novice? Seven very lucky people if you ask me.
 
Jun 8, 2004
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Pearson 26W Marblehead
Awards

I have to agree with the poster that commented on poor drivers. Sailing is a lot safer than
getting in a car. I much rather contend with a novice sailor than the person that crossed the
median strip one night about 5 years ago and headed up rt 95 the wrong way and came to a sudden stop by hitting my car head on at 70 mph. Unfortunately it was the drivers final auto
trip. It was almost mine.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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Hunter 30 Behind the house...
in Germany you have to have a boating license for every craft with more then 5hp, and they are though exams with theoretical and practical tests
it is scary how little some boaters know about right of way or even correctly operating a vessel
 
May 2, 2008
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S2 9.2C 1980 St. Leonard (Chesapeake Bay), MD
A quick update - I went by the marina and found out that the boat is still there awaiting repairs. The problem was the mixing elbow - it had come apart completely (broke in half) and was pumping the cooling water into the boat. I was told it is a C&C although I could not see anything to confirm the make. It looks like it is about 27 feet and the name on the stern is Silver Fox.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Learning by Doing Vs. Stupidity

There's learning by doing and then there's stupidity. I've been sailing for 40 years and still make many mistakes. Last month I ran aground off Nantucket in my O'Day 25 centerboard that draws 2'3" because I relied on an out of date chart rather than my own judgment (here's a video). Two years ago I fell overboard 3 miles offshore while picking up a piece of trash (here's the story). Six years ago I took an 19' O'Day Mariner out of Pleasant Bay (Cape Cod) and into the Atlantic through 6' breaking waves... under sail... while dragging an anchor. When I was younger I repeatedly sailed a Victory 21 in heavy fog without radar, radio or even a radar reflector. My idiocy thus established, I can say that even at my most idiotic, my most ignorant, I would never have taken a boat I knew nothing about into the ocean for an overnight sail. This guy reminds me of Charlie Girard, a Frenchman who planned to row across the Atlantic Ocean in record time... having never rowed on the ocean before. It's fine to learn by doing... but it's just plain stupid to leap before you look.
 
Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
...I repeatedly sailed a Victory 21 in heavy fog without radar, radio or even a radar reflector. My idiocy thus established,...
I think not, Michael, for you appeared to have repeatedly returned!:) How'd ya do that?
 
Oct 22, 2008
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- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Isn't Charlie Girard the guy who had to be rescued twice in one week...the first time because the boat he designed was leaking like a sieve....
 
Jan 27, 2008
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ODay 35 Beaufort, NC
Chartering your boat

The guy next to me had a C&C34. Very nice boat, although I like mine better. He decided he wasn't using it enough so he should charter it. After about 4 charters the next time I saw the boat it was out of the water with a crack in the hull so bad you could look into the bilge from behind the keel. Apparently the boat was smashed on the rocks at the watch hill pass. Proving you can drive a boat at 5 knots may get you the right to charter but who checks on whether you know how to navigate? Not sure what happened to that C&C if it was repaired or trashed. I never saw it again and the slip was rented to a power boat the next year.
 
Jul 7, 2009
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Catalina 30 Mark I Stockton, Mo
Re: There are no Old Wise Pilots

"There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots"

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Jun 2, 2004
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Oday Day Sailer Wareham, MA
I would never set off in a new to me boat (especially from an unfamiliar port) until I had thoroughly checked the boat out, including taking several sea-trials of short duration. However, I have over 40 years of experience in sailing (grew up on boats every summer since birth) and so I have learned what to look for. I basically learned by doing, I learned to sail in a 6' dinghy with Dad coaching me from shore as well as on the CAL 21 that we had at the time. I learned to row by just doing it (tethered by the 30' towline to our sailboat), but I'd been watching Dad row for several years prior.
The problem with people today is that they may try to learn by doing.....but never witnessed the correct way to do things and so never learn from their mistakes! I used to have a 9' trimaran (replaced the 6' sailing dinghy) and it was sort of fixed up on my rather lean budget at the time (HS Junior/Senior with only a lawn mowing job averaging $13/week). The boat taught me SO MUCH since it naturally broke quite often! Let's see...tiller broke about 5 times before I finally made it strong enough, gaff broke 3 times, boom broke twice, the boat leaked like a sieve at the hull/deck joint, mast broke once and I just decided to make it deck-stepped and added standing rigging......gee, why not just run one piece of cable from the port chainplate (actually an eyebolt) up through a hole near the top of the wood mast and back down to the starboard chainplate? Yes, it worked great...........until the sail filled and that cable started to slide through the mast......over went the mast again! Well, that won't work......but if I put a wire clamp on each side of the masthead.....that stopped the cable from slipping through! Oh, then I discovered that turnbuckles with an open hook on the lower end don't tend to stay hooked to the eyebolts when the leeward shroud goes slack......better tape the hooks!
Mistakes can be great learning experiences, and on a small boat are usually low cost! One final bit of confession! That time when my mast broke.....I was sailing without a paddle aboard, or an anchor! In hindsight, I could have easily jumped over the side and swam, pushing the boat to the closest shore (about 50' away!) but I was sailing in shorts and a t-shirt, hadn't planned to go swimming and so didn't put on a bathing suit.......but, I really don't think my Mom would have been as upset about wet clothes as she would have been if I had drifted out to sea! Luckily a couple of guys in a 12' catboat noticed that my sail was no longer visible (did I mention it was bright red?) and came over to check on me. They ended up towing me in.
 
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