Darwin award candidates

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Nov 22, 2008
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Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
They probably would think sailing in our Maine fogs is equally nuts. I love the part where the cameraman is saying, "Slow down", over and over. That probably would have gotten them rolled.

I'm guilty of not wearing lifejackets enough but that would have been a good time.

Speaking of Darwin, did you hear the latest one from Maine? Two guys in a canoe, no PFD's on board, both standing up at the same time to fish and, with a large dog in the canoe. Dog and one fisherman survived.
 
Jun 7, 2007
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Pearson- 323- Mobile,Al
Not living there I don't know if they were reckless or just capable sailers. It seems that the boat made it out alright. Maybe they knew to go out on a falling tide and come back with a rising tide??? It looks risky to me .
 
Jan 1, 2009
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Atlantic 42 Honolulu
Not living there I don't know if they were reckless or just capable sailers. It seems that the boat made it out alright. Maybe they knew to go out on a falling tide and come back with a rising tide??? It looks risky to me .
I've seen boats broached in that channel both going out and coming in. Those aren't "normal" conditions, but you'll see days a few times each summer (some years more than others). The channel is about 10-12 feet deep at the bar with a vertical wall on the reef side and pretty steep too rip-wrap on the Magic Island side (where the camera man was). While those sets were peeking in the channel they were not really breaking there and that's generally considered doable for boats with reliable power.

Here's the same channel on a bigger day (photo credits to Peter Plotzenender who was on the wave in a whaler when it was taken -- that's why the wave looks small POV is actually about 12' already... :D)
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And if that looks like it's going to be fun:
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But they made it out and then back in again...

--Tom.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
http://vesselassistsandiego.com/2009/06/15/40%E2%80%99-sailboat-runs-aground-in-the-surf-outside-of-oceanside-harbor/
 
Jan 4, 2006
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West Coast
There are two unwise things in that clip, IMO: no one is wearing his lifejacket, and there is no sail flying. That's a helluva moment to lose power, and you'd better believe I'd have the main up and drawing (except during the rolls) jib lines rove/cars forward and the furling line ready to run all the way through that. If my engine quit, I'd still have a chance to claw off, or bail out and skedaddle back up the channel.

Don't wanna wash up on the beach trying to get the cover off the main…
 
Jan 1, 2009
371
Atlantic 42 Honolulu
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Don't wanna wash up on the beach trying to get the cover off the main…
There's no beach. There's a reef on one side and boulders on the other. And the channel is not very wide... But, amazingly enough, most folks who wipe out are swept back into the channel. Going out is easier than coming in because you can see the wave faces coming. It is a lot harder to judge the waves from outside. I saw one Cal 25 come in from outside, get broached 90 degrees and rotated 90 degrees broadside to the wave. Three of four people on board went overboard... And, the boat came to a stop mid channel inside and everyone climbed back aboard and carried on home... These guys had been hanging out outside the channel all day waiting for a break to get in and did pick a relative flat... That was in epic surf -- the whole channel was closing out and it was deeper then. All the daymarks were swept away, too... In the over twenty years I lived there (most of it in an apartment where I could see that channel) I don't think any boats were lost as a direct result of big surf -- several were broken up by surf after missing the channel but that's different.

Here's the channel: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=21.281537,-157.842357&spn=0.009497,0.018861&t=h&z=16

--Tom.
 
Jan 4, 2006
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West Coast
A reef on one side and boulders on the other: all the more reason. My mail is hauled up in the turning basin, and only comes down in the turning basin. I've had my engine quit in dicey situations, and have been grateful to have had the prescience to have my main up, ready to draw.
 
Jun 7, 2007
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Pearson- 323- Mobile,Al
I too am reluctant to not have sails available if there is engine trouble. I trust sails more than I trust my engine. Though there have been times when the wind failed me at a critical moment and I was grateful for the engine.
 
Mar 22, 2004
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Hunter 30 Vero Beach
I'd be more worried about taking out one of those surfers, it seems like they are in the way. The boat looks fine. but I'd also have my PFD on.

Dave
 
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