Need Oday 30 forward hatch

[svmaja]

Hi, I have just purchased an abadoned O'Day 30. It was properly put to bed before storage...however someone, a few yrs back, decided to break and enter. One of the things broken was the forward hatch. It is missing entirely. D & R marine does not have a mold for the 30 forward hatch.. I am looking for a kind 30 owner who will help me with dimentions or IF the live in the MD area let me make a mold from thier hatch..

Anyone know how to reach the cutlass bearing for the prop shaft and what engine the 1980 models were using.. I think mine is a yanmar but the ones listed on yachtword.. even though they look exactly like mine.. mac boring says there is no such animal.. thanks
'bella

 

[Joe11688]

Bella,
I'm curious. How do you go about making a mold for the forward hatch?
Joe

 

[Everlong 25]

Bella,
I'm curious. How do you go about making a mold for the forward hatch?
Joe

Joe,

I can speak to this since I made a mold for the outboard mounting block. Youtube has a bunch of good videos of making fiberglass molds and I'm lucky enough to have a ton of boat builders (Vanguard, Goetz, Pearson, Shannon,Dyer) within a couple of miles. Tons of neighbors/friends with helpful advice about working in fiberglass. Also, Don Casey's "This Old Boat" is a real inspiration in trying your hands at these types of things.

Typically, you can take a piece that you want to reproduce and wax it (I laid and buffed out about 8 coats) and spray it with mold release. You then want to use a nice high temp gelcoat (the one I have used RED gelcoat, a high temperature gelcoat, that I got from a friend in the boat building industry). It's odd that I can seem to find this stuff anywhere, though (Jamestown Distributers does not have it).

You then want to build up the piece we fiberglass, really to make a firm mold. We added 2 pieces of wood to allow it to sit. When the mold hardens, you use wedges to pop the original out of the mold. I actually bought a "rough" forward hatch from a 25 that I hoped to first build a mold, the modify to put a recess in the hatch for a solar panel. Of course, this is one of 200 projects and someday I'll get to it!

The mold is okay, but I really need to wet sand the inside of the mold to get a real smooth finish. I was thinking of splitting the mold and making a wider wedge for mounting a 4 stroke.

If anyone is interested, I can fish the mold out of the basement and take a couple of pictures.

Chuck
Everlong
O'day 25
Warren RI
I can

 

[Joe11688]

Hey thanks Chuck for explaining that to me. When I lost my pal Walter a few years ago, his wife gave me all of his nautical books,--all 125 of them! He had all of Don Casey's books, some by Joel White, Boldger, Gardiner, Dave Gerr and you name it, Walter had them all. I just haven't had the time to go through all these books. I have about 85 left. We had an opening day at the SYC and I brought a lot of his books down to sell to the members with all proceeds going to the club. They made $100. I had bought a lot of the best books on boat building and the Don Casey books and donated the money to the club. So all that info is there, but I just haven't got to it yet. I will in time though. One of my most cherished possessions is Walter's fold up tote cart. What a work saver that is. I can load all my gear into it, and wheel it from the truck to the boat at the end of the dock in one trip.
If I was going to make a mold, or even build a forward hatch for my boat, I would take two things into consideration. If the opening is set in an indentation, I'd want to make sure that the cover would be able to open up all the way, and that my Gennie sheets could never get caught on the cover when it's closed. A friend of mine bought a new forward hatch for his Pearson Ariel that he was fixing up. The hatch didn't fit the curvature of the deck, so he built a frame out of white oak that could accommodate the hatch flange and the deck. My question is; did his sheets get snagged on it when he tacked his boat? I never asked him, and the thought never crossed my mind until now. So these are the things to ponder whenever a person takes on a task such as this. A lot of work goes into it, and you only want to do it once. Thank you again Chuck!
Joe

 

[Everlong 25]

Gotta let us know about used book sales!

Hey thanks Chuck for explaining that to me. When I lost my pal Walter a few years ago, his wife gave me all of his nautical books,--all 125 of them! He had all of Don Casey's books, some by Joel White, Boldger, Gardiner, Dave Gerr and you name it, Walter had them all. I just haven't had the time to go through all these books. I have about 85 left. We had an opening day at the SYC and I brought a lot of his books down to sell to the members with all proceeds going to the club. They made $100. I had bought a lot of the best books on boat building and the Don Casey books and donated the money to the club.
Joe

Jeez Joe, Share the wealth! Next time you folks have a sale, post it! I'm a 10 minute drive away and 2 hours by sail! (Damn you, Brightman Bridge), I love collecting the books on boat repair/modification. I work in Providence and I'll pop into Cellar Stories, a used book store.

I've picked up some pretty nifty books and actually built an electrical panel box out of mahogany over the winter. I actually mocked it up with dove tail joints in pine (that was fun to learn) but decided on a different construction method I picked up from one of the books (I used a rabet joint, which was a pretty cool joint to make). The face is just an old piece of wood I picked up at one of the Marine Consignment shops in Newport for a couple of bucks. I think it turned out pretty good and really served as the basis of my rewiring the old girl.

I threw a couple of pictures below, the first is the panel rough mounted on the boat, the second is the picture I took and it shows the joint from the top, the third picture has a side profile to show the joint. (Pretty pleased with myself! I don't get much done, but it's nice when there's a little bit of quality with the stuff I DO get done).

I've since taken out the old stock O'day panel and have put in a 3 way battery selector and I upgraded the fuse panel. The one in the picture I bought off the internet and to be honest, it just didn't feel right putting it in...a bit cheap.

Chuck
Evelong
O'day 25
Warren RI

 

[Joe11688]

Jeez Joe, Share the wealth! Next time you folks have a sale, post it! I'm a 10 minute drive away and 2 hours by sail! (Damn you, Brightman Bridge), I love collecting the books on boat repair/modification. I work in Providence and I'll pop into Cellar Stories, a used book store.

I've picked up some pretty nifty books and actually built an electrical panel box out of mahogany over the winter. I actually mocked it up with dove tail joints in pine (that was fun to learn) but decided on a different construction method I picked up from one of the books (I used a rabet joint, which was a pretty cool joint to make). The face is just an old piece of wood I picked up at one of the Marine Consignment shops in Newport for a couple of bucks. I think it turned out pretty good and really served as the basis of my rewiring the old girl.

I threw a couple of pictures below, the first is the panel rough mounted on the boat, the second is the picture I took and it shows the joint from the top, the third picture has a side profile to show the joint. (Pretty pleased with myself! I don't get much done, but it's nice when there's a little bit of quality with the stuff I DO get done).

I've since taken out the old stock O'day panel and have put in a 3 way battery selector and I upgraded the fuse panel. The one in the picture I bought off the internet and to be honest, it just didn't feel right putting it in...a bit cheap.

Chuck
Evelong
O'day 25
Warren RI

Hey Chuck,
Beautiful Work! I like that. I'm very familiar with the Cellar Book Store. I had him do a search for me on a book entitled, "Adventures Down the Bay" by Wallace P. Stanley (reprint) originally published 1902). Two years went by and he called to tell me that he located it. Price, $10.00. You'd have loved this book. it's a fiction, historically correct, all about your sailing area through the eyes of two small boys sailing a small boat in the Early 1900's.
Walter's wife asked me if I wanted his books when we went down there to see them. She said that she didn't know what to do with them and even thought of throwing them away!!! My God, Bowditch, Casey, sextant reduction tables, I'm glad that I grabbed them. I'm like you Chuck, I'm a book nut.
I used to buy all my used Teak at a marine shop off Water St. in Warren RI, years ago. I know your area well. One of my friends lives on the water next to Blount where the Barrington and Warren Rivers intersect. Thank you for sharing these pics. Have a great sailing season.
Joe

 

[emergpa1]

Nice work chuck, I like the old wood. Is that cherry? While I am redoing the cabin of my boat, I occasionally cast my eye to the OME switch box, wondering how i can dress it up
keith

 

[emergpa1]

(Trinka said, "I used to buy all my used Teak at a marine shop off Water St. in Warren RI, years ago. I know your area well. One of my friends lives on the water next to Blount where the Barrington and Warren Rivers intersect. Thank you for sharing these pics. Have a great sailing season.
Joe )
I wish we could get old wood around here. No teak to be had. I had to drive to chattanooga TN yesterday just to pick up some cherry plywood for bulheads. No teak to be had in Chat, or Atlanta. Tried to get mohagany, but i needed it in 1/2 inch sheets. But you can get all the oak you want. Oh well, sailing has not been part of the culture of North GA. Great place for mountain biking though, my other passion. And at least florida is only six hours away.
More boat pictures chuck, please!

 

[Everlong 25]

Tried to get mohagany, but i needed it in 1/2 inch sheets. But you can get all the oak you want. Oh well, sailing has not been part of the culture of North GA. Great place for mountain biking though, my other passion. And at least florida is only six hours away.
More boat pictures chuck, please!

EMERGAP1,
Thanks for the compliment...actually, it's mahogany I got for free.
Funny about the Mahogany, I got tons of mahogany that was 2-3 inches thick from a friend who works restoring old mansions in Newport RI. (He burns the scrap for firewood!). He gave me a bunch and I actually made the sides of the box from 1 plank that was 18"x 12". The corners were made from one 4" x 4" X 6" piece.

There are a few consignment shops that have teak, but they are in odd sizes and lengths. I actually prefer Mahogany and ash (which is fairly reasonable) to teak for interior stuff.

Joe,

I did take a quick picture of the mold I made for the outboard wedge. I've included a front and back picture, but you'll notice the mold needs a ton of wet sanding before I make a wedge out of this thing.

My thought here was to pour a new wedge, then take that wedge, cut it in half, inset 4-6 inches and make a new plug for a 4 stroke. Of course, one of 100 projects I lie to myself and say I will get done... Sigh**Someday!:Liar:

Chuck
Evelong
O'day 25
Warren RI

 

[Joe11688]

Chuck,
That's pretty good. I've never done anything like that before. I'm in agreement with you on the Teak. I don't buy it anymore. I'd rather use Mahogany for the stuff that I build for the inside cabin. Everything down below is stained a dark red Mahogany. I don't see a point in using Teak anymore.
Joe

 

[Joe11688]

(Trinka said, "I used to buy all my used Teak at a marine shop off Water St. in Warren RI, years ago. I know your area well. One of my friends lives on the water next to Blount where the Barrington and Warren Rivers intersect. Thank you for sharing these pics. Have a great sailing season.
Joe )
I wish we could get old wood around here. No teak to be had. I had to drive to chattanooga TN yesterday just to pick up some cherry plywood for bulheads. No teak to be had in Chat, or Atlanta. Tried to get mohagany, but i needed it in 1/2 inch sheets. But you can get all the oak you want. Oh well, sailing has not been part of the culture of North GA. Great place for mountain biking though, my other passion. And at least florida is only six hours away.
More boat pictures chuck, please!

emergpa1,
My friend and fellow SYC member Wayne, doesn't like wood. He's been slowly replacing the exterior wood on his Seaward 22 with Starboard for the past few years. He's replaced his drop boards, hand rails, and hatch slider moldings with it. I think that any decent type of wood is OK for down below. A friend of mine used white Oak inside his Pearson Ariel for cabinets and such. He's a cabinet maker and enjoys working with it.
I used to do a lot of biking years ago and got away from it. I would peddle 13 miles to work and back, two and sometimes 3 days a week. I don't think that I could do that again. I've taken some longer trips on bikes. Today, I have all I can do just to get out on my boat. When the day comes that I can't do that, I'll still have my PC and my guitar to keep me going.
Joe

 

[Everlong 25]

Nice work chuck, I like the old wood. Is that cherry? While I am redoing the cabin of my boat, I occasionally cast my eye to the OME switch box, wondering how i can dress it up
keith

emergpa1,

You know, I wish more folks would post pictures of things they customized for their boats..Joe (Trinka) shares his frequently and I always enjoy them.

To be honest, the only reason I go to boat shows is to get ideas on how to customize my boat!

Chuck
Everlong
Warren RI

 

[emergpa1]

emergpa1,

You know, I wish more folks would post pictures of things they customized for their boats..Joe (Trinka) shares his frequently and I always enjoy them.

To be honest, the only reason I go to boat shows is to get ideas on how to customize my boat!

Chuck
Everlong
Warren RI

I like Joe's "trinkas modifications" album
keith

 

[Joe11688]

I like Joe's "trinkas modifications" album
keith

Keith,
I'll try to add on to my photo album as my friend Wayne comes up with more ideas that I can copy and improve on.

Joe

Hey Chuck,
It's a good thing that the fishing is still good in the river because I loath having to open that stupid Brightman Street Bridge every time I want to get out to the Bay. They're talking 2012 for the completion of the new bridge in the back ground. I had my friend Stormin Norman from Alabama with me when this fish was caught. Actually, I caught it and handed him the pole and said, "Hey Norman, fish on,--do you want to bring him in?" "Take the pole, it's probably a just a large Blue Fish." Well, it turned out to be a 32" Striped Bass! I could kick myself. :cussing: