Emergency Tiller - get or make one

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graham

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Mar 9, 2009
21
Hunter 30 (1980) 30,000 islands (Georgian Bay)
Let me relate a little story, and hopefully convince you to get or make an emergency tiller. It's my project for this weekend.

:)

We decided to go for a sail and have lunch on the hook. We took our new to us 1980 H30 out and got sails up early. It was a beautiful day, little or no waves, winds varying from 5-10 kn.

We were out about 2 hours, and found a protected bay. We put the bruce type down 15 feet into some soft bottom, on about a 5:1 rode, and proceeded to swim from the boat, barbecue some kebabs, and generally enjoy ourselves.

The swimming was cold (we were in Georgian Bay). I mention that as it comes into play later.

Around 4:00 we decided to pack up. The wind was up a little, but still little for waves, and the forecast was continuing to call for calm. With what happened next I'd say we were lucky it held true.

In trying to head up the anchor to collect rode, we couldn't stay on course. Something during our anchoring - perhaps a wild swing on the rode, perhaps an errant foot coming up the swim ladder - had disconnected our wheel from our rudder.

Quick inspection left me unable to determine if the cable had just slipped, or if the tensioner was shot, or if a pin had been sheared. The wire was off the keel post wheel.

We left the anchor down and considered. During the consideration I climbed down the swim ladder (transom center) and checked the rudder for freedom. It was moving well.

Then I had a thought:

I shouldn’t have believed local wisdom about the reliability of these Edson steering systems and the lack of need for an emergency tiller.

Then I had another thought. I could climb partway down the swim ladder, and using my feet position the rudder for navigation. I tested this. It worked. My feet were pained by the cold water soon into my experiment, and I realized I couldn’t last more than 10-15 minutes.

I still recall the fellow at the chandler’s saying “everybody wants sailing boots, nobody uses them”. I used mine. Those Gill boots left about 2” of freeboard when standing down on the ladder where I could reach the rudder with my toes.

We decided to make a try for home port. We called the marina, and had standby for towing and assistance ready if we needed it. Then I pulled us upwind for 75 feet of rode and weighed anchor.

For 2 hours I stood like an ape on the swim ladder, in my short pants and rubber boots, holding onto the pushpit rail, giving the passing motor boats an entertaining insight into sailing life.

I could see well to the sides, a bit to the front, and could keep an eye on the chartplotter. My wife called marks and turns, and I pushed the rudder around with my feet, sometimes both to one side of the rudder at once.

We called back in to the marina as we made our way, and they had someone to help us dock at the sea wall. Things went very smoothly indeed.
We could have sailed instead of motoring, using the sails for turning, but we felt it would complicate the situation given tacks would be required.

It turned out to be a failed tensioner, and all is well now. I smile as I remember how tiring that ride home was, and how fortunate we were with timing and weather, but take from my experience the serious note that an emergency tiller is a good idea. I believe it to be a requirement.

I’ll be fitting mine this weekend before we head back out.
 

Ray T

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Jan 24, 2008
224
Hunter 216 West End - Seven Lakes
Sounds like you had an emergency tiller. Actually its amazing what you can do when the chips are down.
 

Benny

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Sep 27, 2008
1,149
Hunter 320 Tampa, FL
I would have played it a little different. I would have called towboat US on the VHF and requested a tow, then I would have saved all my energy for whipping out that unlimited tow membership card for paying for the service. An MOB manuever without a working rudder could get a little messy.
 
Mar 22, 2004
733
Hunter 30 Vero Beach
If you can't find one, I have one for an 83 H30 that I could draw out a diagram for. they are pretty simple and any welder could make one up. let me know if you're interested.

Dave
 
Mar 22, 2004
733
Hunter 30 Vero Beach
Give me until tomorrow

I'll try, I'm not good with Paint, and I have no way to scan it into my computer. I'm planning on going to the boat tomorrow. I'll post it then if I can

Dave
 

graham

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Mar 9, 2009
21
Hunter 30 (1980) 30,000 islands (Georgian Bay)
I would have played it a little different. I would have called towboat US on the VHF and requested a tow, then I would have saved all my energy for whipping out that unlimited tow membership card for paying for the service. An MOB manuever without a working rudder could get a little messy.
I agree Benny - I didn't undertake this lightly, and had the call in for a tow on standby. I'm in Canadian waters - as far as I know there's no BoatUS equivalent for Georgian Bay.

The nature of swim laddering it left me cheek to cheek (use your imagination) with my wife at the charts and plotter giving directions. MOB would be nasty, but wouldn't take long to recover, as a power kill put the boat into a tight turn (we tried it).

Dave thanks for the drawings - I searched the forum and found some Edson marine pdfs linked too.
 
Mar 22, 2004
733
Hunter 30 Vero Beach
Graham,
I started thinking about your emergency tiller on your boat, and If I remember right, you don't have a seat behind your wheel that lifts up. Your set up might be different, but I have a shallow, 1'deep, storage locker under the seat just behind the wheel. On the older boats, the seat didn't have an opening storage locker. Your emergency tiller would be completely different.

Dave
 

graham

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Mar 9, 2009
21
Hunter 30 (1980) 30,000 islands (Georgian Bay)
Hi Dave - it actually does have an opening stern lazarette. That's where the diesel goes in, and looking in I can reach the steering cables. The rudder post was previously adulterated with some epoxy or something - so the open pipe top is all clogged.

The edson manual shows a top mounting tiller, that has channels to drop into the post and around a pin, but my pin is obscured by the gunk.

I'll go with the U-clamp approach.
 
Mar 22, 2004
733
Hunter 30 Vero Beach
I take it that the pin isn't removable. Can't you just drill a new hole through the rudder post a couple of inches down and use a tiller like the one that came with my boat? Drill the hole, put the tiller arm on the rudder post, slide the pin through the holes and put a cotter pin on the end of the tiller pin.
 

graham

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Mar 9, 2009
21
Hunter 30 (1980) 30,000 islands (Georgian Bay)
Exactly Dave - maybe I wasn't clear - I'll ignore the gummed up top of the rudder post and put a u-bracket on a little lower using either a pin or a bolt through new holes in the post.

A pin with a cotter pin would probably be easier to slide through the 4 holes (2 each in the U-bracket and rudder post) than would a bolt with a wing nut.

Thanks for all your help.

Graham.
 
Jun 30, 2009
9
2 28.5 Lake Norman NC
Hey, thanks for bringing up this subject. As long as I've owned my 1985 Hunter 28.5, I've never thought about an emergency tiller. So, I went searching and found it under a bunch of stuff in the cockpit locker. It's basically a two-foot piece of pipe, bent to about 45 drgrees with a slot in one end. Tried it, and it works! Now I have it in a handy place in the locker for a little peace of mind.
 

graham

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Mar 9, 2009
21
Hunter 30 (1980) 30,000 islands (Georgian Bay)
At the risk of graphic overkill, but hoping it may help anyone else make one if they can't find one, here's the basic diagram I used and the resulting tiller.






 
Mar 22, 2004
733
Hunter 30 Vero Beach
Great Job Graham. Looks almost like the one that came with my boat. I like the tab on the top though it would make putting the pin in much easier.

Dave
 
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