Repairing A Marine Alternator (Long/Photos)

Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
While I had my alternator apart I actually remembered my camera this time. They are not very complicated and the worst part is usually the trouble shooting, if it were to fail. The rebuilding is the fun and easier part. I'd put this as a 5-6 on a 1-10 difficulty scale. This alternator is the stock Mitsubishi unit that came on my Westerbeke 44 B Four engine and is a mere 50 amps..

The first step is to remove the pulley. You definitely will need an impact wrench to do this. If you don't have one bring it by any garage and a mechanic will probably zip it right off for free.



To split or open the case remove the four bolts closest to the edges of the alternator. Once the case is split remove the four machine screws closest to the pulley as these hold the front bearing retainer plate.



These are the bolts that hold the case together.



The front bearing is the only part in this alternator that I actually replaced. The Westerbeke diesel engine this alternator came off of has 2870 hours on it and this alternator was still in perfect working condition. I only replaced the front bearing because it sees the most wear.

If you are wondering why this alternator is so clean it's because I cheated and had already bead blasted it. I had taken it apart to clean, paint & rebuild but forgot to photograph it the first time. Second time is the charm..;)



This is the plate that retains the front bearing. To replace the bearing simply remove this plate, press the old one out and order a new one. It takes all of two minutes to replace the front bearing on this particular alternator.



This is where it can become slightly tricky. On this Mitsubishi built alternator the rear bearing is simply a light press fit into the rear case. To remove the rotor I just placed the shaft in the vice, being careful to only grab the shaft nut, and then lightly tapped the case with my lead hammer while rotating it so it came off evenly. I would not use a regular iron hammer to tap on aluminum but it's up to you. Remember this is a light tapping not pounding. Be very careful when tapping the case and removing the rotor as you do not want to damage anything. Many of these small case internal fan alternators are assembled in a similar fashion.



Once the rotor is out all you need to do on this one is remove the three gray screws and pull the stator assembly out. On this unit the brush holder, voltage regulator and stator come out as one unit and the stator is soldered to the regulator/brush holder.

If you are wondering where the brushes are they have been retracted and held back inside the housing for re-assembly, which I'll get to.



In this photo you'll notice a tiny hole right next to the center bearing location. This is the hole you use to retain the brushes while re-inserting the rotor. You can't re-install the rotor with the brushes in the way so they must be held back.



In this photo you'll notice a 2" long brad nail stuck into a tiny hole next to the brushes. This is how you retain the brushes to re-install the rotor. I found this 2" brad nail to be the perfect tool to retain these brushes.

*****Unfortunately with many of these dual internal fan Japanese style alternators the voltage regulator and brush assembly is all one unit. The voltage regulator and brush assembly is also soldered directly to the stator. While not hard to replace it is more of a pain than the bigger Delco or Hitachi style alternators. Fortunately for me this one is still in perfect condition and operating flawlessly. I'm sure it will run a bit cooler now that I cleaned all the dust and grime out of it too.



From the left you'll notice the rear bearing & then the copper colored brush contacts which are called slip rings. There are dual fans that are internal to this alternator one on the front and rear sides of the rotor.



Re-Assembly


The first step with an alternator like this one is to retain the brushes, as you saw above. You then line up, and slide, the stator/regulator assembly back into the rear case being very careful to make the brush retaining brad nail slide into the small hole in the rear case.

Sometimes a Sharpie marker is a good way to mark both the stator and the case so you know how they line up & go back together.

Don't forget to re-install the three gray screws before installing the rotor, or what ever holds your stator/regulator assembly is held in place.



In this picture the rotor is set into the case but not yet seated in the rear bearing cavity. To seat this bearing I simply flipped it upside down, with shaft nut on my work bench, and tapped it with my fist then give it one light tap with the lead hammer. Simple!



Remember when I showed you the tiny hole in the rear case? Well this is how it works. You re-assemble the alt then pull out the brad nail or what ever you used to retain the brushes.



The black plastic ring is to insulate the alternators 12V output stud from the grounded alternator case. Do not forget to reinstall this or you could have a direct short to ground.



Here you can see that I have reinstalled the ground screw and the retaining bolts for the 12V output stud so the back end is done!



With the front bearing replaced, the internals cleaned, and the case bead blasted and put back together she is ready for a new coat of paint and 2800 more hours..

Repairing or rebuilding an alternator is not a difficult job and most any local alternator shop should be able order you the parts you need. I got my front bearing from the local auto electric shop here in Maine.

These days it's rare to see an alternator wear out and if it does it's often the front bearing or the voltage regulator. Brushes for some reason seem to last eons these days. Perhaps they changed to composition to something better and longer lasting? The brushes in this one are barely worn at 2870 hours of use..
 
Jun 19, 2004
512
Catalina 387 Hull # 24 Port Charlotte, Florida
If you are wondering why this alternator is so clean it's because I cheated and had already bead blasted it. I had taken it apart to clean, paint & rebuild but forgot to photograph it the first time. Second time is the charm..;)

The second I looked at the first photo Maine Sail, I knew you had already been in there and cleaned it up, since I knew that you had the hours on it from your earlier post about the problem with the cracked bell housing.

Thanks for sharing this detailed "show and tell" about how easy it is to do this. Most people I would suspect just go buy a replacement in lieu of doing what you have here. It looks good to go for another 2800 hours...:) Nice job as usual.
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
MaineSail...

you do a far better job than Seglock, Chilton, Haynes, or any other repair manual I've ever seen!

Ever thought of going into the publishing business?

Brilliant!!!
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
I also look forward to Maine's photo projects. But I have to say taking my old Hitachi to the auto electric shop was much easier. And very inexpensive compared to most boat projects. That was eight years ago so I cannot remember the exact cost, maybe $30. Now with my new Balmar I know it will outlive me.

So Maine, with all that goes on with you and your boat the 50 amper with internal regulation is what you have stayed with?
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Yes it works fine

So Maine, with all that goes on with you and your boat the 50 amper with internal regulation is what you have stayed with?
Yes and it does everything I need it to with my lead acid batteries. I have had external regulation before and it's fine but not all it is cracked up to be when you are not drawing your banks below 50-70% which I rarely do. The PO's cruised her for five straight years, and lived on the hook, with only this alt and an 80 watt solar panel. They had not even adopted LED except for the anchor light. I think we over estimate our actual needs quite often due to very good marketing. Of course if you have 12V refrigeration, or regularly discharge below 50%, which I don't, you will probably need a higher output alt..

I am considering a switch to AGM batteries this season, and will replace this alternator and go to external regulation. I will convert a Prestolite/Leece-Neville rather than pay double what I need to for Balmar especially when Leece-Neville is Balmar's supplier.

I actually ordered the 90 amp Leece-Neville 8MR270TA yesterday from a supplier in Oregon for $181.00 the external regulation plate to convert it is about $18.00 so for under $200.00 I will have a high quality, high output, externally regulated alternator. Now I just need to pick my voltage regulator.

When I get the Leece-Neville I will photograph the conversion to external regulation and include all part numbers, which I did not do the first two times I did this. This alternator is the exact Prestolite/Hitachi style case Universal & Westerbeke use on their stock alternator upgrades so everything fits well!

This alt will actually become my spare, waiting and ready to go...
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Good luck with that conversion. I called a couple of electric shops and found one that said yes, they could convert my new 80amp Hitachi to external. So I took the alternator and my new regulator(Aqualine) with schematics and instructions over there. Two days later they called and said they were afraid to tackle the conversion. That's the day I put the Hitachi in the locker and ordered the Balmar.

Now of course I had the problem of adapting the Aqualine to the Balmar. No small feat because the color-coding and terminal ends were not a match. (http://www.e-marine-inc.com/products/alternators/aqualine.html).
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Ed If..

Good luck with that conversion. I called a couple of electric shops and found one that said yes, they could convert my new 80amp Hitachi to external. So I took the alternator and my new regulator(Aqualine) with schematics and instructions over there. Two days later they called and said they were afraid to tackle the conversion. That's the day I put the Hitachi in the locker and ordered the Balmar.

Now of course I had the problem of adapting the Aqualine to the Balmar. No small feat because the color-coding and terminal ends were not a match. (http://www.e-marine-inc.com/products/alternators/aqualine.html).
If your Hitachi looked like this case, which is also called a Motorola/Prestolite case then it's easy. If it's one of the internal fan Hitachi's, like my Mitsubishi good luck!

Original adjustable Leece-Neville regulator.



Leece Neville regulator conversion plate part #114-307 is a simple two wire hook up. Connect one wire to one brush terminal and the other to the other brush terminal. One of the posts is then grounded to the case and the otehr becomes your field wire. it's a very, very simple conversion on the Leece-Neville/Prestolite's. the blue is teh field wire the black is grounded to the case and both attach internally to the brushes.
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Pretty slick deal, never a day goes by that I don't learn something new. But the Hitachi will sit in the locker as backup. The Hitachi's are at least solid. I had the original 33 amp unit on my 2QM20 which I replaced with a 50 that I found on E-Bay. I never had a problem with either one. Then my new 3YM30 came with the Hitachi 80 and I should have left well enough alone. With a generator and so much motoring when cruising I could have saved the money.
 
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Mark W

Westerbeke Alternator question

Hi, found this post via a google search for 'Westerbeke 44 Alternator' and I am wondering if you might be able to point me in the right direction, you seem very knowledgable.

I have lost charging output and tacho output from the OEM alternator on our Westerbeke 44AFOUR. I am about to check the connections (clean, no breaks etc) this morning. The engine runs fine otherwise and the belt turn the pulley easily. The output ffrom the alternator goes to the batteries via the starter and I have good continuity there and the insulator on that connection appears fine (else I'd have a short to the engine ground and the engine would not start).

I do have a digital multimeter on board and a tool kit but this side of the electrical system is completely alien to me so I am a little lost as to what to do with it. Also the alternator is all sprayed red so it's tough to see any markings or wire colors (thank you Westerbeke).

any tips ? suggestions or URL's that may aid me ?

Thanks

Mark