One freshwater deck fill or two?

AaronD

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Aug 10, 2014
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Classic Yachts 26 Newberg, OR / Shelton, WA
One of the main projects this winter is to plumb water tanks + pump to a sink faucet.

Boat: Classic Yachts 26. Usually moored in the summer and trailered home off-season. I'm new to marine plumbing - even just having a sink and drain this summer was a move up in the world from just water bottles on our C-22. :cool:

No practical space for a solid tank. Old flexible tank under the aft berth, which I plan to replace with a new tank of ~15 gal; and adding a ~25 gal tank under the starboard settee - we'll mostly use the aft tank, and keep the midship tank for backup and to level out some of our list to port (the galley, head and 2 of our 4 propulsion batteries are on port, so some water on starboard will help).

From some old threads, including this discussion, the clear consensus is to include a manifold / switch and draw from one tank at a time, which was definitely my plan.

But with 2 tanks (or the 5 that sail sfbay noted!) would one prefer separate deck inlets for each tank, or a single deck inlet and a manifold / selector valve to select which tank to fill? Reasoning? I have one deck fill currently, and it should be straightforward to add another - and that was my leaning, but I could be argued toward a fill-side manifold instead.

FWIW - we'll probably be using a low-flow faucet (osmosis-style). Ideally, I might do a foot-pump to conserve water, but I plan on an electric instead, so I don't have to pump for an hour to empty the tanks before trailering (we need to shift weight forward on the ramp, and definitely when towing). Maybe eventually I'll do both (foot-pump for daily use and electric to drain tanks).
 
May 1, 2011
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Pearson 37 Lusby MD
But with 2 tanks (or the 5 that sail sfbay noted!) would one prefer separate deck inlets for each tank, or a single deck inlet and a manifold / selector valve to select which tank to fill?
I have three water tanks on my boat. Each has a separate deck fill.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,496
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
I have two tanks with two separate fills. I never use one of the fills. Why? Because one tank easily drains into the other tank because it is higher. This works thru the manifold.
Of course, each of your tanks needs its own vent.
 
Jan 11, 2014
14,175
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Keeping the tanks isolated is important so 2 fills are best. If there is one fill and it becomes contaminated, there is no way to fill either tank. The fill can become contaminated with mold and mildew or by a faulty gasket.
 

AaronD

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Aug 10, 2014
771
Classic Yachts 26 Newberg, OR / Shelton, WA
Keeping the tanks isolated is important so 2 fills are best. If there is one fill and it becomes contaminated, there is no way to fill either tank. The fill can become contaminated with mold and mildew or by a faulty gasket.
Good point.

And the input seems consistent. Survey says... Two deck fills.

Thanks, all.
 
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Sep 24, 2018
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Catalina 30 MKIII Chicago
My boat has two fills. We only use one tank due to some mildew in one of them (one of 1000 projects). the 20ish gallons last a few weeks. I empty my tanks at the end of the season using the faucet and electric pump. No need for a separate drain pump as the water will just go down the sink drain
 
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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
The size and number of tanks is dependent on the volume of water you need for the coastal cruising you are planning. Recommendations vary based on activity, here is one source.

Things You'll Need Water For
  • Drinking: 0.5 - 0.9 gallons (or 2 - 3.5 liters) per day
  • Showers - 0 - 17 gallons (65 liters) per day
  • Laundry - 0 - 40 gallons (150 liters) per load
  • Cooking - 0 - 1.8 gallons (7 liters) per day
  • Interior/exterior cleaning - 0 - 26 gallons (100 liters)
  • Backup - 0 - infinity
One size does not fit all. If you plan 2 tanks, then two inlets can help reduce the plumbing of two tanks. It also may help to isolate tankage should something contaminate one tank.
 
Apr 8, 2010
2,251
Ericson Yachts Olson 34 28400 Portland OR
The factory scheme for our water tanks was to have a fill on the top of each tank. One is under a settee, and the other under one seat in the cockpit. This was a new concept to me when we were comparing boats, before buying this model. I appreciated it almost instantly after purchase. I run the hose inside thru a hatch, with a little quarter-turn valve on the end. It's super easy to fill the tank up and then tighten the cap back on the tank.
Best of all, no questions about "how much" is in the tank(s) and zero concern about ingesting deck spray or rain or crud thru a bad O ring.
In the cabin, I tilt up a cushion, and there's the fill point, in a round cutout in the settee top piece. We carry 38 gallons in the main tank, and another 23 in the aft one. We have a manifold installed by Ericson, beneath the galley sink area,
Having water for a week at a time while cruising is really nice. :)
 
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May 1, 2011
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Pearson 37 Lusby MD
I am curious. Did the Navy 44 sail well? They look rather cool, but there are none in my sailing area.....
Yes, the boats sailed well. They were designed by McCurdy & Rhodes as sail training vessels for the U.S.Naval Academy. We sailed with a crew of eight midshipmen and two officers. I was in a flotilla that sailed to Bermuda and back in 1993.
 
Jun 14, 2010
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Robertson & Caine 2017 Leopard 40 CT
Despite your concerns about weight distribution, I suggest you run through your “backup” tank as frequently as possible to avoid fouling due to stagnation.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
A couple of years ago we left Oyster Bay on Long Island Sound in really snotty conditions, 20+ knots from the east, sloppy seas, rain, just a "joyful" day on the water. We were motoring and our friends were reefed. A boat left after us and we watched as they hoisted a full main and then popped the chute. Who were these fools we thought, until they got closer and saw a crew of big young men having a great time. It was a Navy sailboat screaming past us.