Repair Options

Jun 11, 2023
84
Hunter 27 Deer Island
I've a 1984 Hunter 27 and the bow plate area has been compromised/damaged (see attached pictures).

Right now, I'm thinking some epoxy in/on/or around the cracks will prevent water ingress. Once that's completed, I'd like to restore the deck plate.

Does anyone have any additional ideas and/or experience with sort of repair?
 

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Jan 19, 2010
12,890
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Yes. I've restored 7 old sailboats and have done a lot of this kind of work. Remove the deck hardware.... then grind out the pockets using something like this....
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Fair the damaged area to a ~12:1 bevel—the bevel length should be about 12 times the depth of the grind. For example, if you grind 1 mm deep, the bevel should be roughly 12 mm wide.
You will rebuild the area using layers of resin‑wet fiberglass cloth. To make accurate cloth pieces, place clear plastic over the pocket and trace its outline. Cut out this plastic shape...this will be your largest fiberglass piece. Cut several additional pieces, each slightly smaller than the last.
Dry‑fit the fiberglass pieces in the hole, stacking smallest first, largest last. Adjust the number of layers as needed so the stack fills the cavity and finishes just slightly below flush.
Once satisfied, lay all the fiberglass pieces on a fresh sheet of clear plastic. Wet them thoroughly with resin and stack them largest first, smallest last. Carry the plastic sheet to the repair area and place the entire wet stack into the pocket. Smooth the laminate by working through the plastic, then leave it in place until the resin cures.
After curing, remove the plastic, sand smooth, fair as needed, and paint.

Don't be afraid to try it. If you mess up... just grind it out and try again.
 
Jun 11, 2023
84
Hunter 27 Deer Island
Yes. I've restored 7 old sailboats and have done a lot of this kind of work. Remove the deck hardware.... then grind out the pockets using something like this....
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Fair the damaged area to a ~12:1 bevel—the bevel length should be about 12 times the depth of the grind. For example, if you grind 1 mm deep, the bevel should be roughly 12 mm wide.
You will rebuild the area using layers of resin‑wet fiberglass cloth. To make accurate cloth pieces, place clear plastic over the pocket and trace its outline. Cut out this plastic shape...this will be your largest fiberglass piece. Cut several additional pieces, each slightly smaller than the last.
Dry‑fit the fiberglass pieces in the hole, stacking smallest first, largest last. Adjust the number of layers as needed so the stack fills the cavity and finishes just slightly below flush.
Once satisfied, lay all the fiberglass pieces on a fresh sheet of clear plastic. Wet them thoroughly with resin and stack them largest first, smallest last. Carry the plastic sheet to the repair area and place the entire wet stack into the pocket. Smooth the laminate by working through the plastic, then leave it in place until the resin cures.
After curing, remove the plastic, sand smooth, fair as needed, and paint.

Don't be afraid to try it. If you mess up... just grind it out and try again.
Hi,
I appreciate your incredibly detailed reply; thank you so much!
Once the damage has been repaired, do you recommend installing a new (more sturdy) deck plate?
I've very limited experience in this type of work (thus I may have additional questions).

Mark
 
Jan 11, 2014
13,952
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
What @rgranger said.

Work all the air bubbles out of the glass, the bubbles weaken the laminate. Use a chip brush or better yet get a fin roller.

Do not try to get a perfectly level surface with the glass, it is nearly impossible. Do the best you can. Once the resin has cured sand the area and use a fairing compound to smooth the surface. It may take 2 or 3 layers to get the finish you want.

You have a choice of resins, epoxy or polyester. Each has its strengths and weaknesses, epoxy adheres better than polyester, polyester is cheaper than epoxy. My preference is epoxy. If you use epoxy wash with water and Scotchbrite padthe surface after it has cured to remove any amine blush that has appeared.

One of the best sources of information on working with resins and fiberglass is the BoatworksToday YouTube channel.

Stay away from auto repair resins and fillers.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
24,455
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Eric,
It looks like you had this damage back in Nov 2025. Just never got around to making the repair suggested by the forum members?

What are you imagining for a "more sturdy" deck plate?
The boat was built with sound hardware to provide a lightweight, efficient sailboat. It was not intended to provide a "bumper car" structure. The type of damage in your image looks like hitting the dock at a speed greater than the boat handler desired. Or it might be a racing collision.

Either way, the fiberglass design makes for a relatively easy repair while keeping weight to a minimum.

It is your boat, and you can replace the fore deck with stainless steel. A metal shop could do the work and provide a metal wrap around for the fore plate with the needed sail connections and plate attachment to the bow. It might help with protecting the boat by transferring the damage to the dock or surrounding boats.

I firmly believe that you should never bring the boat into the slip at a speed at which I am not willing to repair the damage to either the boat or the dock.
 
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Jun 11, 2023
84
Hunter 27 Deer Island
Eric,
It looks like you had this damage back in Nov 2025. Just never got around to making the repair suggested by the forum members?

What are you imagining for a "more sturdy" deck plate?
The boat was built with sound hardware to provide a lightweight, efficient sailboat. It was not intended to provide a "bumper car" structure. The type of damage in your image looks like hitting the dock at a speed greater than the boat handler desired. Or it might be a racing collision.

Either way, the fiberglass design makes for a relatively easy repair while keeping weight to a minimum.

It is your boat, and you can replace the fore deck with stainless steel. A metal shop could do the work and provide a metal wrap around for the fore plate with the needed sail connections and plate attachment to the bow. It might help with protecting the boat by transferring the damage to the dock or surrounding boats.

I firmly believe that you should never bring the boat into the slip at a speed at which I am not willing to repair the damage to either the boat or the dock.
My question in November related to the consideration of "beefing up" the bow area of my boat (in hope of preventing similar damage in the future).

I live in a climate where boat repairs are difficult to do (outside) for approx. 4-5 months of the year.

My current focus is on fixing the actual damage described.

I completely agree with the adage of, "not bringing a boat to dock at a speed that exceeds my willingness to repair damage to both dock and/or boat".

This said, I didn't do this damage; it was included in the price of purchase!

I really appreciate your suggestion regarding a metal wrap around for the fore-plate.
 
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Jun 11, 2023
84
Hunter 27 Deer Island
What @rgranger said.

Work all the air bubbles out of the glass, the bubbles weaken the laminate. Use a chip brush or better yet get a fin roller.

Do not try to get a perfectly level surface with the glass, it is nearly impossible. Do the best you can. Once the resin has cured sand the area and use a fairing compound to smooth the surface. It may take 2 or 3 layers to get the finish you want.

You have a choice of resins, epoxy or polyester. Each has its strengths and weaknesses, epoxy adheres better than polyester, polyester is cheaper than epoxy. My preference is epoxy. If you use epoxy wash with water and Scotchbrite padthe surface after it has cured to remove any amine blush that has appeared.

One of the best sources of information on working with resins and fiberglass is the BoatworksToday YouTube channel.

Stay away from auto repair resins and fillers.
Thank you for the follow up; I very much appreciate it.
 
Sep 11, 2022
128
Catalina 34 mk 1.5 Rockland ME
I don't like the look of that stem fitting. There's a lot of rust staining and it looks like it's bent forward? The staining may be superficial, but I think a careful inspection or possibly the eye of a professional rigger is warranted.
 
Jun 11, 2023
84
Hunter 27 Deer Island
I don't like the look of that stem fitting. There's a lot of rust staining and it looks like it's bent forward? The staining may be superficial, but I think a careful inspection or possibly the eye of a professional rigger is warranted.
That's a solid observation; I'll certainly it additional consideration.
Thank you.
 
Apr 22, 2011
971
Hunter 27 Pecan Grove, Oriental, NC
The stem fitting on my H27 looks about like yours, but a little more gap between the stainless fitting and the fiberglass skin. The fitting is not designed to help support the forestay. Its purpose is to secure the bottom of a hanked on jib or Genoa. On my boat, I think the separation is caused by a wet core in that area, so the scew that we see in the photo can't get a bite in the wet core. If you are feeling brave, try working your way all the way forward in the V-berth until you can check for wetness underneath the stem.
 
Jun 11, 2023
84
Hunter 27 Deer Island
The stem fitting on my H27 looks about like yours, but a little more gap between the stainless fitting and the fiberglass skin. The fitting is not designed to help support the forestay. Its purpose is to secure the bottom of a hanked on jib or Genoa. On my boat, I think the separation is caused by a wet core in that area, so the scew that we see in the photo can't get a bite in the wet core. If you are feeling brave, try working your way all the way forward in the V-berth until you can check for wetness underneath the stem.
Are you suggesting the OEM stem was not designed to deal with the extra stress of a roller-furler system?
I'm relatively now to sailing so my basic knowledge is not what I'm hoping it will become.
 
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PaulK

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Dec 1, 2009
1,522
Sabre 402 Southport, CT
The damage looks a lot like chafe from dock or mooring lines. Hitting things tends to create cracks rather than what looks like gouges here. The area seems quite small. While layering fiberglass cloth into the repair would make it stronger it might be simpler to grind out any loose edges and fill the gouges with an epoxy-fiber mix. Adding a stainless steel chafing strip over the edge Chafe Guard - Stainless Steel might prevent any recurrence, along with making sure the line gets led through the chock instead of simply over the bow.
 
Jun 11, 2023
84
Hunter 27 Deer Island
The damage looks a lot like chafe from dock or mooring lines. Hitting things tends to create cracks rather than what looks like gouges here. The area seems quite small. While layering fiberglass cloth into the repair would make it stronger it might be simpler to grind out any loose edges and fill the gouges with an epoxy-fiber mix. Adding a stainless steel chafing strip over the edge Chafe Guard - Stainless Steel might prevent any recurrence, along with making sure the line gets led through the chock instead of simply over the bow.
I completely agree that the damage was due to mooring and/or dock lines being improperly run.

Once the fiberglass repairs are complete, I will be taking additional preventive measures (i.e., chafing strip, etc.).

Thank you for your advice.
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,890
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
What @rgranger said.

Work all the air bubbles out of the glass, the bubbles weaken the laminate. Use a chip brush or better yet get a fin roller.

Do not try to get a perfectly level surface with the glass, it is nearly impossible. Do the best you can. Once the resin has cured sand the area and use a fairing compound to smooth the surface. It may take 2 or 3 layers to get the finish you want.

You have a choice of resins, epoxy or polyester. Each has its strengths and weaknesses, epoxy adheres better than polyester, polyester is cheaper than epoxy. My preference is epoxy. If you use epoxy wash with water and Scotchbrite padthe surface after it has cured to remove any amine blush that has appeared.

One of the best sources of information on working with resins and fiberglass is the BoatworksToday YouTube channel.

Stay away from auto repair resins and fillers.
@dlochner mentioned the difference between epoxy vs. polyester. Another reason to choose epoxy is the ease of clean up. Epoxy will literally react with and dissolve into vinegar before it cures. Any spills can easily be cleaned up. Tools can be wiped down, your skin wiped down (if needed) etc. Epoxy is not UV stable so a paint or gel coat will need to be applid to protect the epoxy. Keep a bottle of vinegar ready w/a roll of paper towels and you have an insurance policy against repair gremlins.
 
Jun 11, 2023
84
Hunter 27 Deer Island
@dlochner mentioned the difference between epoxy vs. polyester. Another reason to choose epoxy is the ease of clean up. Epoxy will literally react with and dissolve into vinegar before it cures. Any spills can easily be cleaned up. Tools can be wiped down, your skin wiped down (if needed) etc. Epoxy is not UV stable so a paint or gel coat will need to be applid to protect the epoxy. Keep a bottle of vinegar ready w/a roll of paper towels and you have an insurance policy against repair gremlins.
Thank you so much; that's sound advice.
 

capta

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Jun 4, 2009
5,067
Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
If it was my boat, I would have a S/S fitting made to cover that area, including a headstay fitting, the chocks and wrap around the edges. Bed and secure with through bolts and backing plates.
I'm just guessing, but it looks as though an anchor chain was run through that area, and it is possible it might be necessary again, one day.
 
Jun 11, 2023
84
Hunter 27 Deer Island
If it was my boat, I would have a S/S fitting made to cover that area, including a headstay fitting, the chocks and wrap around the edges. Bed and secure with through bolts and backing plates.
I'm just guessing, but it looks as though an anchor chain was run through that area, and it is possible it might be necessary again, one day.
I completely concur; thank you very much for your input.
 
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Jan 19, 2010
12,890
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
If it was my boat, I would have a S/S fitting made to cover that area, including a headstay fitting, the chocks and wrap around the edges. Bed and secure with through bolts and backing plates.
I'm just guessing, but it looks as though an anchor chain was run through that area, and it is possible it might be necessary again, one day.
THAT is solid advice. I just now did a google for welders near Deer Island and three popped up. Maybe call around and see if any work with SS. You would literally have a bullet proof bow. Probably cost less than $200 to have it made and then you could just fill in the existing dings with filler and fair it smooth before you put the plate over it to hide the mess. Spackle and Trim :biggrin:
 
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THAT is solid advice. I just now did a google for welders near Deer Island and three popped up. Maybe call around and see if any work with SS. You would literally have a bullet proof bow. Probably cost less than $200 to have it made and then you could just fill in the existing dings with filler and fair it smooth before you put the plate over it to hide the mess. Spackle and Trim :biggrin:
Honestly, this is what makes this forum so great! It's talking to like-minded, decent sailing folks like yourselves. As an aside, was it Deer Island (US) or Deer Island (Canada) that you looked up?
Regardless, your point is well-noted!!! Thanks again.
 
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