Help me understand water depth on Navionics / Garmin Boating app.

Oct 31, 2024
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Precision 23………. St. Petersburg, FL
I’m not quite understanding the depth shown in some marina areas. For example, the Gulfport Municipal Marina in Florida. The app is showing a 0-3 foot depth for the whole marina area, yet I know there are some rather large boats that go in there, so it must be deeper than that. What am I missing?

Also, for the “Water Level” setting, what exactly does that mean, and where do I get that information?

Thanks for any help.

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Jan 11, 2014
13,385
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
For NOAA charts the depths are usually the Mean Low Water (MLW) depth at the time of the last survey. On paper charts the survey date was easy to find, on digital charts that information is less readily found.

Water depth is not static, it changes over time due to silting, dredging, or generally increased water depths worldwide due to climate change. In the case of the marina, it is likely that the area was dredged to accommodate larger boats.
 

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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,727
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Regarding the Water Level setting. It is a tool to establish the Datum of the water you are on. Charts have a Datum established. If you are on a lake and there has been a drought. The Lake might be 2ft below the datum level on the chart. This feature allows you to adjust the datum on the screen. This could help you avoid shallow places that could get you stuck had you not adjusted the datum to reflect the current water level.

Garmin provides a complete discussion of the Water Level adjustment feature.
 
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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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Regarding the marina depths. You will need to consult local knowledge. They may have dredged the marina area, and it is not reflected on the Navionics chart.
 
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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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Ralph. It is Gulfport FL. The average annual tidal change is 1.5 ft. Some days, maybe 1 ft. Others perhaps 2ft. Nothing like we experience.
 

pgandw

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Oct 14, 2023
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Stuart (ODay) Mariner 19 Yeopim Creek
Regarding the Water Level setting. It is a tool to establish the Datum of the water you are on. Charts have a Datum established. If you are on a lake and there has been a drought. The Lake might be 2ft below the datum level on the chart. This feature allows you to adjust the datum on the screen. This could help you avoid shallow places that could get you stuck had you not adjusted the datum to reflect the current water level.

Garmin provides a complete discussion of the Water Level adjustment feature.
Thank you. I was not aware of what the Water Level feature meant.

Fred W
 
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Oct 31, 2024
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Precision 23………. St. Petersburg, FL
Regarding the marina depths. You will need to consult local knowledge. They may have dredged the marina area, and it is not reflected on the Navionics chart.
Ok, thanks. I found one recent review online that said the water depth was 5.5 feet. I guess I didn’t realize that the charts might be that far off. I may just go out there with my little motor boat and measure the depth myself, before I try to launch my 23 foot sailboat out there.
 
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Jun 17, 2022
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Hunter 380 Comox BC
1. The charts aren't always correct.

2. Not all obstacles are charted.

3. Depths haven't been surveyed at every 20 ft lateral.... in some areas, in can be hundreds-thousands of feet between surveyed depths, everything else is inferred.

4. Navionics can use user derived data (bathymetry). That data is susceptible to error as users must correctly set their transducer depth offset in Navionics (which very few do). I trust it for seeing the contour profiles, but not the specific depths.

5. Sandbars move

6. River outflows will move sand / silt. The chart may reflect where the bottom was 30 years ago.

7. Aids to navigation can be moved, you are responsible for updating the chart (via notice to mariners), Navionics can be months or years behind on updating your chart (if at all) depending on where in the world you are.


8. Channel ranges are valid when they were installed. They are not moved, the bottom though can move. When was the channel last dredged? Go slow, trust your eye and depth sounder.

9. The user needs to understand the datum for the water levels, and for the bridge clearance heights! This is not an international standard, there are marked differences between Canada and the US... boater beware. :) Assume that the datum is different for tidal and non-tidal waters.

Remember that charts and aids to navigation are intended to support commercial shipping, thus the level of details and everything else isn't designed for us pleasure craft users. Up here in BC for example, there are areas where I can be anchored in 15 feet of water that the chart says I'm on land, and areas that are marked with 20 feet of water that dry at low water.

I trust my eyes 1st, my depth sounder 2nd, and my chart 3rd.

If you really want to get good at leveraging charts, take a power squadron navigation course.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
13,385
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Thank you. I was not aware of what the Water Level feature meant.

Fred W
On the Great Lakes there are several websites that report near real time water level data. In that data you can determine whether the water level is higher than the chart datum or lower. Lake Ontario chart datum is 243.3 ft above sea level. The current water level at Oswego, NY is 244.42 feet, the water is about 1.1 feet above chart datum.