3d printing for boats.

Apr 5, 2009
3,131
Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
Well, I ordered a 3d printer last night and now I need to come up with things to print with it.

Anyone have any STL files for boat stuff they made for their boats that they are happy with? Some of the things I plan to make are.
  • Insulation cover for the positive shunt to my Zeus regulator to protect the 2/0 wire terminals from shorting out.
  • Shower sump box to mount a small bilge pump into that will allow the shower water to not get into the bilge
  • Emergency bilge pump housing that will lift it off the bottom of the bilge so that it will be high and dry unless the primary electric bilge pump is not keeping up due to too much water or failure of the primary pump.
  • Boat hook holder.
  • Tank caps.
  • Line holders for stern rail.
  • Fender line holders for lifelines.
  • Custom Papillon crab gauge that is only sized for WA inshore crabs instead of the commercially available one that also has Oregon and WA offshore size limits.
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May 17, 2004
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Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
Have fun! I like making little projects with mine. Boat stuff I’ve made includes:
 
Apr 11, 2020
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MacGregor 26s Scott's Landing, Grapevine TX
Boat hook holder: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7091667
Stanchion clamp for mounting .75" tube to1" tube. Full explanation at MakerWorld: 1" to .75" tubing clamp by Stickinthemud57 MakerWorld: Download Free 3D Models
Sponge holder - Originally designed for home use, but could be good for the boat as well. Scale as needed for various sponges: Sponge holder by Stickinthemud57 MakerWorld: Download Free 3D Models
Can/drink holder: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6382581
Wine glass holder: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6378697

If you plan to make your own designs (which unlocks the full potential of a 3D printer), I recommend Fusion 360 (free version available). There are other (also free programs) such as TinkerCad, but F360 is far more robust, and can generate code for CNC milling as well.

PLA (standard filament) is great for most purposes, but PETG is not as brittle and resists UV much better. Some printers can handle ABS (hotter nozzle and bed temps), but produces toxic fumes requiring ventilation to outside the living space.

Which printer did you order?
 
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Apr 11, 2020
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MacGregor 26s Scott's Landing, Grapevine TX
What timing . A friends son just 3D printed some replacement plugs for the nonworking gauges on our cockpit bulkhead .
Lot's of ideas now ..
As I alluded to in my response to the OP, being able to model your own devices makes the 3-D printer a true tool as opposed to a toy.
 
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Apr 25, 2024
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I do a lot of 3D design and printing for all sorts of things. We have a room dedicated to 3D printers ... so that's how bad it is.

Pretty much everything I do is very specific to an application, so not very useful for general use.

I would think a printer would be of pretty limited use if you don't design your own parts. There are lots of handy STLs available for download, but for me, it is all about making something that is EXACTLY what I want. @stickinthemud57 has some good advice. There is also Onshape. I use Fusion 360 because it is what I know and it also allows me to do simulations to identify points of failure. But, my son also turned me onto Onshape which is VERY capable and free (if you don't mind making your designs public) and it runs entirely in the browser - which sounds like it would suck, but it is really quite excellent.

As for materials, in addition to what has been said, ABS tends to be my go-to for many functional parts. I am set up to print with it and it has the distinct advantage of being solvent weldable with acetone. So, parts can be printed in multiple pieces for the most advantageous orientation, then stuck together with acetone, resulting in a bond that is stronger than the rest of the part. And, parts can be vapor polished, which also improves strength as well as looking great.

Also, often overlooked are:
  • Nylon: Takes a fairly capable printer, but can be really useful.
  • TPU: This can be tricky to print with, for many printers, but once you get it figured out, it is a fantastic material! It is flexible, compressible, stretchable, and nearly indestructible.
  • Carbon-filled or Glass-filled PLA: Pretty handy when you can't print with more demanding materials but need some additional strength that PLA won't give you.
  • NylonG: The stuff of dreams. If your printer can print nylon (many can't quite get there), then NylonG (glass-filled nylon) is pretty excellent. You can make some really durable parts. I made a replacement cog for an oscillating tool, years ago, and it is still in great shape.
As far as specific designs useful to boats, some ideas people sometimes don't think about:
  • Custom jigs and guides: This is one of the most handy uses for boat projects. For example, we are replacing the ceiling with tongue-and-groove planks that need to be cut precisely. So, I made a sort of miter box that exactly fits the planks and also adjusts for length. So, I use the jig to measure the gap (like a giant Vernier caliper), then flip it over to make the exact cut to fit that gap. Also, made a drill guide for drilling holes in backer plates. That sort of thing.
  • Wire management: Every nook and cranny has its own requirements. Building a custom rig for wires in each space makes for a tidy setup. (I have only seen this on another boat. My wiring is a train wreck, still.)
  • Instrument covers: I sat on and cracked the cover to the radar screen, so I need to replace that. So, I decided to make custom and matching covers for all instruments - embossed with our boat name. (Haven't done this yet.)
  • Placards: When a label maker won't quite cut it, even a very modest 3D printer can make some pretty detailed placards. This usually takes a bit of hand-finishing to not look like a cheap 3D-printed plastic part, but the result can look pretty good. I have some bronze-looking panels.
A few thoughts on your wishlist. First, most people only ever print in PLA. They get pretty good results with that and, as a result, never try other materials. PLA is not, as a rule, ideal for functional parts. If a part is meant to be exposed, PLA is never a good choice. PLA is good for rapid prototyping and certain cosmetic applications, or in cases where the part is intended to be temporary:
  • Insulation Cover: A good use for a printer. I would use TPU, given the option. PETG would be another good choice.
  • Sump Box: It is almost always better to buy a box and customize it, if needed, with 3D-printed parts. If the box is quite small, 3D printing can be OK, but anything bigger than, say, a hamster, is usually better served with a pre-made box. (Not always true, but in general.)
  • Pump Housing: I don't understand this well enough to comment.
  • Boat Hook Holder and Line Holders: I did this for my last boat. PETG is a good choice. The key is printing in the right orientation. The layers should be parallel with the stress. In other words - print them on their side. If a part fails, it will typically fail between two layers. I have printed hose clamps that are just about invincible - you just need to print in the correct orientation and ensure good layer adhesion (which often means printing with low or no fan).
  • Tank Caps: Most folks don't realize that you can print pretty good threads, if you know the thread size. Fusion 360 actually makes this super simple to model. So, it is totally reasonable to print your own caps - just ensure the material is appropriate to what the tank holds. And, it helps to downsize to a 0.2 nozzle at the smallest layer height your printer will do - and print slowly.
  • Fender Line Holders: This is one of those mission-critical applications that 3D printers aren't great at. If the part fails, it could result in some real damage. There are absolutely ways to print these so you could trust them, but it isn't as easy as downloading an STL and hitting the print button. To put this into perspective, I have been doing 3D design and printing for about 10 years, can print in just about any material, and am setup to anneal parts - and this is just one of those things I would prefer to buy than print.
  • Crab Guage: A really good early project to design and print. PLA is fine for this sort of thing, on the assumption that you will lose it and have to print another one. Print it hollow with minimal infill and it will float well.
 
May 17, 2004
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Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
Placards: When a label maker won't quite cut it, even a very modest 3D printer can make some pretty detailed placards. This usually takes a bit of hand-finishing to not look like a cheap 3D-printed plastic part, but the result can look pretty good. I have some bronze-looking panels.
Yes, I forgot about that one, but I also did make a handy placard to remember which rode marker to let my anchor rode out to based on my depth reading. (Neither the depth reading nor the rode markers are exact amounts for reasons I don't need to go into here).
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  • Nylon: Takes a fairly capable printer, but can be really useful.
  • TPU: This can be tricky to print with, for many printers, but once you get it figured out, it is a fantastic material! It is flexible, compressible, stretchable, and nearly indestructible.
  • Carbon-filled or Glass-filled PLA: Pretty handy when you can't print with more demanding materials but need some additional strength that PLA won't give you.
  • NylonG: The stuff of dreams. If your printer can print nylon (many can't quite get there), then NylonG (glass-filled nylon) is pretty excellent. You can make some really durable parts. I made a replacement cog for an oscillating tool, years ago, and it is still in great shape.
I'll add Polycarbonate, and wood-PLA. I've used PC for replacing a split outhaul sheave. The original looked like some kind of nylon. The new one has been going strong for two seasons so far. The wood-PLA is nice for matching nearby wood. It won't have any grain, but little widgets can be stained and sealed so the color doesn't stand out as being so plastic.
 
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Apr 5, 2009
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Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
Boat hook holder: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7091667
Stanchion clamp for mounting .75" tube to1" tube. Full explanation at MakerWorld: 1" to .75" tubing clamp by Stickinthemud57 MakerWorld: Download Free 3D Models
Sponge holder - Originally designed for home use, but could be good for the boat as well. Scale as needed for various sponges: Sponge holder by Stickinthemud57 MakerWorld: Download Free 3D Models
Can/drink holder: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6382581
Wine glass holder: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6378697

If you plan to make your own designs (which unlocks the full potential of a 3D printer), I recommend Fusion 360 (free version available). There are other (also free programs) such as TinkerCad, but F360 is far more robust, and can generate code for CNC milling as well.

PLA (standard filament) is great for most purposes, but PETG is not as brittle and resists UV much better. Some printers can handle ABS (hotter nozzle and bed temps), but produces toxic fumes requiring ventilation to outside the living space.

Which printer did you order?
Thans for the info.

I have used the free version of Fusion 360 but found it clunky when needing to make changes. That might just be due to not being familiar with the program. I am a master of Autodesk Revit and have taught advanced modeling classes for my reseller. In the past I have test driven Design Cad and found it very powerful and intuitive but have not been near it for over a decade. I am just looking for options.

The printer I got was a BamBu Labs PS1 combo. I also got a 0.40 hardened hotend assembly. I have used my brothers-in-law's to make several things and it prints ABS without issue right out of the box with the standard setting. It also does a very good job with TPU.
I have been told that I can print CF with the hardened hotend.
 
Apr 5, 2009
3,131
Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
See responses to your questions in red in the body of your response.

The printer that I am getting is the Bambu Labs PS1 combo. I also got a 0.4" hotend assembly. I have printed about a dozen custom parts on my [BIL] brother-in-law's PS1 Combo.

I do a lot of 3D design and printing for all sorts of things. We have a room dedicated to 3D printers ... so that's how bad it is.

Pretty much everything I do is very specific to an application, so not very useful for general use. I fully agree. most of the stuff I have seen are interesting toys but the reason I got the printer was to make stuff that I have a need for and are not available to my specification elsewhere.
I am a Structural Engineer and just recently retired and closed my company. I am a master modeler in Revit and have taught weeklong advanced concrete modeling courses for the Autodesk reseller. 3d modeling is nothing new to me but I have been working on a slightly bigger scale. My models typically are full industrial precast/prestressed concrete structures, and the models contain every rebar, bolt, plate, texture, color, embedment... in the building.

I would think a printer would be of pretty limited use if you don't design your own parts. There are lots of handy STLs available for download, but for me, it is all about making something that is EXACTLY what I want. @stickinthemud57 has some good advice. There is also Onshape. I use Fusion 360 because it is what I know and it also allows me to do simulations to identify points of failure. But, my son also turned me onto Onshape which is VERY capable and free (if you don't mind making your designs public) and it runs entirely in the browser - which sounds like it would suck, but it is really quite excellent.
I have used the free version of Fusion 360 and found it rather clunky and limited. You must have the pay version because the free cannot do stresses which I would really like.

As for materials, in addition to what has been said, ABS tends to be my go-to for many functional parts. I am set up to print with it and it has the distinct advantage of being solvent weldable with acetone. So, parts can be printed in multiple pieces for the most advantageous orientation, then stuck together with acetone, resulting in a bond that is stronger than the rest of the part. And, parts can be vapor polished, which also improves strength as well as looking great.
So far most everything that I have printed has been in ABS for all of the above reasons. I have printed a few items in TPU and it is very handy when you need flexibility.

Also, often overlooked are:
  • Nylon: Takes a fairly capable printer, but can be really useful. I am not sure about this but think that it might with some modifications. I have ordered the 0.4" hardened hotend assembly.
  • TPU: This can be tricky to print with, for many printers, but once you get it figured out, it is a fantastic material! It is flexible, compressible, stretchable, and nearly indestructible. I have printed some TPU items, and they came out great.
  • Carbon-filled or Glass-filled PLA: Pretty handy when you can't print with more demanding materials but need some additional strength that PLA won't give you. Does this filament have the problems with UV and aging that regular PLA has?
  • NylonG: The stuff of dreams. If your printer can print nylon (many can't quite get there), then NylonG (glass-filled nylon) is pretty excellent. You can make some really durable parts. I made a replacement cog for an oscillating tool, years ago, and it is still in great shape. I have not heard of this filament but will be looking into it. My understanding is that with some minor modifications, I should be able to print some of the carbon fiber filaments.
As far as specific designs useful to boats, some ideas people sometimes don't think about:
  • Custom jigs and guides: This is one of the most handy uses for boat projects. For example, we are replacing the ceiling with tongue-and-groove planks that need to be cut precisely. So, I made a sort of miter box that exactly fits the planks and also adjusts for length. So, I use the jig to measure the gap (like a giant Vernier caliper), then flip it over to make the exact cut to fit that gap. Also, made a drill guide for drilling holes in backer plates. That sort of thing. This is one of the things I am looking forward to. I watch the YouTube channel "Living For Sail" and he is also an engineer and has made a bunch of jigs for his refit. He has really gotten my creative juices flowing.
  • Wire management: Every nook and cranny has its own requirements. Building a custom rig for wires in each space makes for a tidy setup. (I have only seen this on another boat. My wiring is a train wreck, still.) I saw someone today that is doing this and I will be looking into it. My wires are a mess, and I have a ton of electrical gear.
  • Instrument covers: I sat on and cracked the cover to the radar screen, so I need to replace that. So, I decided to make custom and matching covers for all instruments - embossed with our boat name. (Haven't done this yet.) Sounds like a nice job for TPU.
  • Placards: When a label maker won't quite cut it, even a very modest 3D printer can make some pretty detailed placards. This usually takes a bit of hand-finishing to not look like a cheap 3D-printed plastic part, but the result can look pretty good. I have some bronze-looking panels.
A few thoughts on your wishlist. First, most people only ever print in PLA. They get pretty good results with that and, as a result, never try other materials. PLA is not, as a rule, ideal for functional parts. If a part is meant to be exposed, PLA is never a good choice. PLA is good for rapid prototyping and certain cosmetic applications, or in cases where the part is intended to be temporary: I do not even plan to buy any PLA. My printer will come with some half rolls and that is probably all I will have. ABS and TPU will be my primary filaments. If it was significantly less expensive than ABS, I would use it for prototyping but so far, it looks to be about the same cost as ABS.
  • Insulation Cover: A good use for a printer. I would use TPU, given the option. PETG would be another good choice. This is not intended to be a soft item. Is it a protective hard cover to keep anything metal from touching my 2/0 conductor ring terminals on the shunt on my main positive cable coming off my 250A alternator. Solid and robust is the name of the game!
  • Sump Box: It is almost always better to buy a box and customize it, if needed, with 3D-printed parts. If the box is quite small, 3D printing can be OK, but anything bigger than, say, a hamster, is usually better served with a pre-made box. (Not always true, but in general.) My boat is a Catalina 30 and it has a very narrow bilge. It is much smaller than any of the commercial shower sumps. It will also need to accommodate at least three of the keel bolts. Custom is the only thing that will work. It will be out of ABS for its ability to handle water.
  • Pump Housing: I don't understand this well enough to comment. As I said, my bilge is very narrow and only about 8" deep. It is just the floor of the keel stub which is 8" deep by 6" max wide by 6' to 8' long. I have an automatic primary bilge pump that is 200GPH and mounted flat on the floor to handle normal bilge needs. It has an electronic switch and excessive runtime and high-water alarms. I then have an emergency 4000-gph bilge pump that is intended to be used only when the primary 2000-gph cannot keep up or fails. It has a mechanical float switch and is hard wired to the battery and has a loud alarm that will sound whenever it is running [with a kill switch for sanity]. My intent is for this pump to be mounted to a housing that is fastened to the top of the keel bolt nuts. It will be higher than the "pump on" level of the primary so it should never get wet unless it is needed in a major emergency. I plan to 3d print this platform out of ABS.
  • Boat Hook Holder and Line Holders: I did this for my last boat. PETG is a good choice. The key is printing in the right orientation. The layers should be parallel with the stress. In other words - print them on their side. If a part fails, it will typically fail between two layers. I have printed hose clamps that are just about invincible - you just need to print in the correct orientation and ensure good layer adhesion (which often means printing with low or no fan). This is simular to one of the things I printed on BIL's printer in ABS. I made a flag pole holder for a telicoping flagpole that holds my Starlink Dishy. I printed it so that the layers are perpendicular to the flagpole and used 4-rows before truss fill at 70%. It weathered a squall the other day with winds over 35-nts, so it is pretty strong.
  • Tank Caps: Most folks don't realize that you can print pretty good threads, if you know the thread size. Fusion 360 actually makes this super simple to model. So, it is totally reasonable to print your own caps - just ensure the material is appropriate to what the tank holds. And, it helps to downsize to a 0.2 nozzle at the smallest layer height your printer will do - and print slowly. My standard SS nozzle is 0.2 and I have seen the effect of thin rows. These caps have a slight crown so thin rows will be very important to get a good finish. I am planning on water, fuel and black tank all out of ABS which I think should be good for those uses. It might be a good item to try vapor polishing as well.
  • Fender Line Holders: This is one of those mission-critical applications that 3D printers aren't great at. If the part fails, it could result in some real damage. There are absolutely ways to print these so you could trust them, but it isn't as easy as downloading an STL and hitting the print button. To put this into perspective, I have been doing 3D design and printing for about 10 years, can print in just about any material, and am setup to anneal parts - and this is just one of those things I would prefer to buy than print. Good point. I was thinking that it could be an early CF project.
  • Crab Guage: A really good early project to design and print. PLA is fine for this sort of thing, on the assumption that you will lose it and have to print another one. Print it hollow with minimal infill, and it will float well. Excellent suggestion.
Thank you for your excellent response and taking the time to go into such great detail. A response of this quality required an equally detailed reply. I hope my blathering makes some sense and please feel free to straighten me out where my thoughts have gone astray.
 

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Apr 5, 2009
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Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
Yes, I forgot about that one, but I also did make a handy placard to remember which rode marker to let my anchor rode out to based on my depth reading. (Neither the depth reading nor the rode markers are exact amounts for reasons I don't need to go into here).
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I'll add Polycarbonate, and wood-PLA. I've used PC for replacing a split outhaul sheave. The original looked like some kind of nylon. The new one has been going strong for two seasons so far. The wood-PLA is nice for matching nearby wood. It won't have any grain, but little widgets can be stained and sealed so the color doesn't stand out as being so plastic.
I am also hoping to make chain markers. I have 5/16 G43 chain if anyone has an STL file for that size. :biggrin:
 
Apr 25, 2024
532
Fuji 32 Bellingham
It sounds like you are well ahead of the game with your background.

A few thoughts:

I do use stress simulation in Fusion 360, but not much for 3D printed parts. Since the software has no way of knowing how well bonded layers are, and not a great way of knowing how the slicer has done walls and infill, it really only has a crude idea of how a part will react. I do use features that let me analyze interference. My only real criticism of Fusion is that, while it does parametric modeling better than anything out there, it makes the management of actual parameters ... a bit of an afterthought.

Still, if Fusion wasn't to your liking, give Onshape a shake for about a week or so. It has some idiosyncrasies but is really well-suited for the task of creating 3D printable parts, as long as you don't have complex motion to work out. I was skeptical - free and in-browser - how good could it be? But, I was impressed.

Printing Nylon: The only trick to nylon is that you need a hotend that will comfortably sustain about 250 degrees, a heated bed, and really preferably a heated chamber. Nylon really likes to warp. If you've experienced this with ABS, nylon is at least twice as bad. That makes some designs really challenging to print, since uneven shrinkage across thinner and thicker parts can really twist your print. But, if you can keep the bed and chamber hot, nylon is super handy.

Carbon/Glass-filled PLA: Yes, to my knowledge, it has pretty much the same environmental vulnerabilities as plain PLA. Probably (I'm guessing) it has "some" additional resistance - just because there is some percentage of the material that is not vulnerable.

Modifications to print with fibers: Really, just about any printer will print materials that are filled with fiber or metal, so long as they are able to print in the base material. That is, if you an print nylon, you can print NylonG. The only thing is that these more abrasive materials prematurely wear softer nozzles. So, it is recommended to use a hardened steel nozzle. But, since I consider nozzles a disposable commodity, I don't always bother unless I am going to be printing a large part or several parts with an abrasive filament.

Not using PLA: I hear you. But, PLA has some distinct advantages. First, there is no filament that comes in so many colors and interesting fillers. Second, it is the least toxic - so if you need to print just a throwaway part to check for size/fit/etc. it is better than ABS and way faster than TPU. Which is my third point: On most printers, you can print PLA faster than any other filament for the same level of detail.

But, a counterpoint to my throwaway point: Although PLA is technically biodegradable, it takes decades to break down under normal conditions. So, it still is not great to add to the landfill. But ABS, on the other hand .... here's what I do with it:

I put all of my scrap, failed parts, etc. that were printed in ABS into a dedicated ABS-only bin. Periodically, I break the scrap down with acetone to make a slurry. That slurry can be used to fill, repair, bond, etc. other ABS parts. (It doesn't keep very well, though.)

Threads in ABS: Vapor polishing will almost certainly ruin the threads which are too fine to fair up well to the process. But, the good news is that you can use acetone to polish just the tops by quickly wiping a thin bit of acetone across the surface and then not fussing with it until it dries again. ABS also wet-sands to a high gloss. But, for that application I would consider printing the cap separate from the threads so you can finish the cap nicely and clean up your threads separately, then bond them together. In fact, I would be tempted to try to find ABS pipe that was the correct diameter, cutting threads on that pipe, then binding it to the cap you printed.

Hmm ... I might have a go at that.
 
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Well, I ordered a 3d printer last night and now I need to come up with things to print with it.

Anyone have any STL files for boat stuff they made for their boats that they are happy with? Some of the things I plan to make are.
  • Insulation cover for the positive shunt to my Zeus regulator to protect the 2/0 wire terminals from shorting out.

  • Shower sump box to mount a small bilge pump into that will allow the shower water to not get into the bilge

  • Emergency bilge pump housing that will lift it off the bottom of the bilge so that it will be high and dry unless the primary electric bilge pump is not keeping up due to too much water or failure of the primary pump.

  • Boat hook holder.

  • Tank caps.

  • Line holders for stern rail.

  • Fender line holders for lifelines.

  • Custom Papillon crab gauge that is only sized for WA inshore crabs instead of the commercially available one that also has Oregon and WA offshore size limits.
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On my 94 C30, there's a large gap between the sliding hatch and the cabin top. This can be seen on the left and right sides of the hatch, while the hatch is closed and your facing aft. I plan on printing a block and attaching it to the underside of the hatch. I might be able to get a pic of this gap today. It's right next to the sliding tracks.

Other things I plan on printing:
-Dish soap and brush holder
-Hand soap holder for head
-Additional storage/drink holder for binnacle
-I've always wanted to design some replacement plastic parts for hood furlers
-Sail slides/slugs
-Line hooks for stanchions and bimini/dodger frames
 
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