Tohatsu Outboard Mystery!

BCGR

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Sep 16, 2017
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Hunter 35.5 Holland, MI
I own a 2017 Tohatsu 9.8 outboard motor. (MFS 9.8B, Serial # 030552AF)

A part broke in half and I cannot find a part number to order a new one. I've looked at numerous Tohatsu parts catalogs and cannot find this item!

It's a bronze or brass barrel attached to an armature alongside the carburetor which holds one end of the throttle bar in place with a set screw. It split in half - likely because I tightened the set screw too much - but as you can see there's a black line which may have split eventually even without my "help"!

I cannot locate a part number, and so far, Tohatsu dealers I've contacted don't know what the part is either!! Please help!!

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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Check out Fig #5
Could it be the Choke Rod?
 

BCGR

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Sep 16, 2017
7
Hunter 35.5 Holland, MI
Jssailem - Thank you for the link. However, that's the same catalog I have (and the other Tohatsu dealers have), and that part is not listed anywhere.

On Fig #5 the Choke Rod - that is the rod/bar in my photos above the Throttle Rod. That is attached by a white plastic snap. My outboard has two rods and it's the Throttle Rod barrel that I cannot locate. Thank you, though, for the suggestions.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,065
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
It looks (from your image) that it is connected to the carburetor. Can you tell what else it is connected to?

Is it a rod that adjusts fuel flow?
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
I would guess they don't sell that part separately. Can you remove it? It actually looks very easy to replicate if you can get it off fairly easily.... Of course, I can't see how it connects back behind the set screw.

dj
 

BCGR

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Sep 16, 2017
7
Hunter 35.5 Holland, MI
dj - I actually don't know how to remove that. Based on the pics below, do you have any suggestions?

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BCGR

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Sep 16, 2017
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Hunter 35.5 Holland, MI
It looks (from your image) that it is connected to the carburetor. Can you tell what else it is connected to?

Is it a rod that adjusts fuel flow?
On one end, it's attached to the carburetor, and on the other end, it's bolted to the throttle drum. (The other end 'rounds' around the throttle drum bolt - on the right side of the photo below.)

And, yes, it adjusts fuel flow.

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dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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dj - I actually don't know how to remove that. Based on the pics below, do you have any suggestions?

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Yes - that's a riveted head onto that washer. they definitely don't sell that part separately but they should be able to sell that assembly arm although the parts catalog doesn't show these parts so you likely would have to buy a whole carburetor.

To remove that piece, I'd use a jewelers saw and cut the head off running the saw cut right down the face of that washer. It actually should be fairly easy to do although probably a bit time consuming. You might have to use a needle file to clean up that cut face.

You should then be able to pop that part out - don't loose that plastic or metal washer. There may be a very thin washer on the other side also - don't loose that one either.

Take some measurements now - especially how much head is sticking out at the moment - you don't want your replacement part to stick out any further, it would probably bind up on something. You also want to know how far out those holes are from the arm.

Then to make the replacement part, you'll need the diameter of where the rod and set screw go. Then the diameter of the shaft going through that assembly. You can make the length a bit more than you need for making the rivet head, but if you can measure that also, it would make it easier rather than fitting, marking and then cutting to about 1/8" bigger than you your current head protrudes - I just can almost never get it right the first time so making it a bit longer just gives me peace of mind...

The next trick to making that rivet, is to drill into the back side which will become the rivet head. OK, what size drill to use... This one gets a bit tricky. You've measured how far that head sticks up in the back. The drill size you select will leave approximately the same amount of material around that diameter as that head was sticking up. You can drill to a bit below the interface where the bottom of the head will be against that washer on the back side. You can then use a center punch to flare out the your new rivet head working it carefully so that the rivet creates just the right amount of friction to allow that part to spin freely - one of the functions of that plastic washer under the washer where your rivet sits. Once the "feel" is right, you stop riveting and any excess metal you simply file off to give the proper clearance. That whole solid head is absolutely not needed.... It's simply done that way at the manufacturer because they have a completely controlled system where that part is mass manufactured.

The other side where the rod and set screw go, you will want to drill pilot holes only until after this riveting process is finished. Then do the finish hole sizes and threading once riveted.

That should give you a better part than OEM....

dj

p.s. As an FYI - You probably didn't really break that part. In production, they would have done those two cross holes in one operation, then done the riveting. It's very likely that created a crack during manufacture that finally manifested itself with you tightening down that set screw...
 
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BCGR

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Sep 16, 2017
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Hunter 35.5 Holland, MI
Yes - that's a riveted head onto that washer. they definitely don't sell that part separately but they should be able to sell that assembly arm although the parts catalog doesn't show these parts so you likely would have to buy a whole carburetor.

To remove that piece, I'd use a jewelers saw and cut the head off running the saw cut right down the face of that washer. It actually should be fairly easy to do although probably a bit time consuming. You might have to use a needle file to clean up that cut face.

You should then be able to pop that part out - don't loose that plastic or metal washer. There may be a very thin washer on the other side also - don't loose that one either.

Take some measurements now - especially how much head is sticking out at the moment - you don't want your replacement part to stick out any further, it would probably bind up on something. You also want to know how far out those holes are from the arm.

Then to make the replacement part, you'll need the diameter of where the rod and set screw go. Then the diameter of the shaft going through that assembly. You can make the length a bit more than you need for making the rivet head, but if you can measure that also, it would make it easier rather than fitting, marking and then cutting to about 1/8" bigger than you your current head protrudes - I just can almost never get it right the first time so making it a bit longer just gives me peace of mind...

The next trick to making that rivet, is to drill into the back side which will become the rivet head. OK, what size drill to use... This one gets a bit tricky. You've measured how far that head sticks up in the back. The drill size you select will leave approximately the same amount of material around that diameter as that head was sticking up. You can drill to a bit below the interface where the bottom of the head will be against that washer on the back side. You can then use a center punch to flare out the your new rivet head working it carefully so that the rivet creates just the right amount of friction to allow that part to spin freely - one of the functions of that plastic washer under the washer where your rivet sits. Once the "feel" is right, you stop riveting and any excess metal you simply file off to give the proper clearance. That whole solid head is absolutely not needed.... It's simply done that way at the manufacturer because they have a completely controlled system where that part is mass manufactured.

The other side where the rod and set screw go, you will want to drill pilot holes only until after this riveting process is finished. Then do the finish hole sizes and threading once riveted.

That should give you a better part than OEM....

dj

p.s. As an FYI - You probably didn't really break that part. In production, they would have done those two cross holes in one operation, then done the riveting. It's very likely that created a crack during manufacture that finally manifested itself with you tightening down that set screw...
dj - thank you very much for all the details. That project seems a bit out of my league but you gave me enough specifics to maybe make an attempt! Thanks!!
 
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Find a place that works on older cars. Anyone who is familiar with swapping out a TBI for a carburetor or adjusting points will recognize the part and be able to fix you up.

You might try looking in a Holly or Edelbrock catalog for carb linkage pieces and find something. It is a common sort of item.

You probably can't find it on the parts diagram because it is part of the larger piece and cannot be purchased by itself.
 
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Part # 15 in figure 5 is the bracket and holder and stuff. The part you are looking for is part of that bracket assembly I think.
As Rick says, you can probably find a part that will work at a car place that messes with carburetors.
 
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DLj , I finally broke down and bought the outboard I had been to cheap to buy for way too many years . I spent quite a bit of money buying every factory part I could to convert it to the model that Yamaha never officially offered.
There was one tiny piece I needed that wasn't available . So I made it at work .
I've been an industrial mechanic for almost 40 years . I know all too well the feeling of being frustrated by one tiny part that isn't available without paying an obscene amount of money . Just trying to pay it forward.
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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DLj , I finally broke down and bought the outboard I had been to cheap to buy for way too many years . I spent quite a bit of money buying every factory part I could to convert it to the model that Yamaha never officially offered.
There was one tiny piece I needed that wasn't available . So I made it at work .
I've been an industrial mechanic for almost 40 years . I know all too well the feeling of being frustrated by one tiny part that isn't available without paying an obscene amount of money . Just trying to pay it forward.
I started sailing in the 1960's. The sailing world for decades was all about helping each other. It was one of the aspects that really attracted me to sailing. There are still vestiges of those earlier days but today there is a lot of "commercial" interests that drive me a bit crazy. When I started in sailing, you almost had to build many of the bits and pieces for things as the commercial availability was just not the same as today. Now all we do is "buy a new part".... Building things is really satisfying, at least for me....

dj
 
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