Galley . . . comforts of home?

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Aug 14, 2023
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Tanzer 29 Lake Ontario
I've used dutch ovens to bake bread, but mainly on open fires - I'd like to learn how to do it on a stove top. How do you heat the top?
I have 2 techniques for "baking" bread on the stove top with a dutch oven. I use air quotes on "bake" because a real oven is the ideal solution for this. But my techniques work well enough and it keeps my galley simple enough. And fresh bread on board, no matter the technique, always makes my crew and me happy.

The key to a dutch oven is mass; you want a thick, heavy cast iron pot and lid, enameled or not.

- flat breads like pita or English muffins: this is easy, just flatten out a piece dough to about 1-2 cm of thickness so that it fits neatly on the bottom of the pot. Pre-heat the pot to medium heat, covered. Put the risen dough in, decently floured, oil optional, let it cook for 3-4 minutes on the first side, then flip for another 2-3 minutes on the other.

- loaf bread: Don't get too ambitious here, keep your loaf small, maybe no more than the equivalent of 2 cups of flour. You'll need the dutch oven and a small oven-safe dish that can fit inside. I use a small cake pan. Make 4 small balls of aluminum foil maybe 2-3 cm in diameter. Really, all you need is a something that can take the heat and a bit of weight. Put the foil balls at the bottom of the pot, place the dish on top. The key is to make sure there's hot air flowing underneath and around the dish. Cover the pot, warm up to medium heat. You want to build heat with the thermal mass of the dutch oven. When it's decently hot, gingerly place your risen loaf into the dish and cover immediately. Don't disturb it for 15-20 minutes. If needed, leave it in for another 5-10 minutes.

I hope this helps.
 
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Even though I spent five+ years on exchange with the UK RN, I never acquired a taste for tea.
Well, I have always liked tea, just drank it only occasionally. However, I'm a big coffee drinker except when sailing. For some reason I can't drink coffee when sailing, only at anchor. But tea works well. I was an easy convert....

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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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I'm going to try sourdough bread this year on the boat. At home, it has been great.
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I can only imagine what it will be like on the boat.
During a cold sail, one can imagine having a piece of warm buttered bread and a cup of hot coffee.
 
Apr 25, 2024
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Fuji 32 Bellingham
Our previous boat had a very minimal galley (Catalina 27). It had a modest-sized ice box, 2-burner alcohol stove, no oven, and a tiny sink with a hand-pump faucet. Our new boat (Fuji 32) has big ice box, 3-burner propane stove with a decent-sized oven. The sink is bigger and there is hot and cold pressurized water.

I was really looking forward to having an oven. Couldn't think of anything better than freshly-baked cookies when anchored out in a quiet bay. Thought that running water would be nice too.

Now, having owned the new boat about 7-8 months, now, I have to say I don't really like our new galley much more than our old one. We use the oven much less than I thought we would. We just don't really keep ingredients on the boat that lend themselves to oven cooking. I frankly miss our alcohol stove. It worked great and was simple. The pressurized water ... meh. Kind of nice, but it makes it much easier to waste water. Having hot water is kind of nice, but not worth the additional system, to me.

The new boat has a lot more storage, which is nice, without a doubt. But, so far as the galley goes, about the only thing about the new galley that I actually value is the fact that the sink is big enough to wash dishes in. The old one required us to sort of wash have a plate at a time.

The ideal galley, for me:

- more counter space - there never seems to be enough
- a well-insulated ice box
- 2-burner stove
- lots of storage
- full-sized sink
- the minimal complexity needed to provide the above
 
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Apr 5, 2009
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Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
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Now, having owned the new boat about 7-8 months, now, I have to say I don't really like our new galley much more than our old one. We use the oven much less than I thought we would. We just don't really keep ingredients on the boat that lend themselves to oven cooking. ...
You mean you do NOT have a canister of flour, yeast, baking soda & power, chocloate, peanut butter, sugar, pie cherries, beef and pork roasts, turkey brests... on your boat? We have had all of that and the baking stuff is just a part of the boat's galley stores. You use what you choose to use and prepare accordingly.

We choose to eat almost every meal on board and like baked and roasted stuff so that is the type of things we bring aboard.
 
Apr 25, 2024
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Fuji 32 Bellingham
You mean you do NOT have a canister of flour, yeast, baking soda & power, chocloate, peanut butter, sugar, pie cherries, beef and pork roasts, turkey brests... on your boat?
You know, I thought we would, but we just don't. We do spend quite a bit of time cooking on board, but baking just never seems to be a thing. The galley is well-stocked with just about everything, but baking just never really comes up like I thought it would. It might just be that we sailed for so many years without the possibility that we are sort of set in our ways about what kinds of foods we prepare.
 

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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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I am looking forward to homemade biscuits & scones hot out of the oven. I have used a portable single butane burner on board for several years. It has supported my sailing adventures. Eggs, pancakes, bacon, sausage, oatmeal, soup, boiled beef, and curry dishes are all possible. I have recently rebuilt the Force10 stove and propane systems that were not working when I acquired the boat. After this refit, the oven will be operational. I'm wondering if bread will be possible. I'm not sure the temps will be hot enough.

Counter space is a plus on the boat, but the small single sink is not. @Scott T-Bird got me thinking about this issue with the Replacement sink thread..
That adventure may be a year away.

It is now time to go sailing, and this year is the year I venture to the north end of Vancouver Island. :biggrin:
 
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Oct 22, 2014
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WHAT?? And miss the beers you have promised? never...
 
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We've had our Hunter 33 for 17 years. We maybe stay at the dock less than 5 nights per year ( launch & haul-out prep only ) Otherwise we're anchored out 2-3 nights on weekends and 1-2 weeks holidays. Solar panel provides battery juice to 100% every day before noon. Run a fridge with built-in freezer. Don't run top load freezer too friggin' noisy.
Microwave is used for coffee, filter storage. We boil water and do Melitta pour-over into a thermal pot. Otherwise microwave does not get used. I'm considering taking out and adding drawers same as the UK version of our boat.
2 burner propane stove & oven. Stove gets used constantly, oven rarely.
Magma propane grill, fresh steak, fish, chicken, burgers etc. Grill vegtables on Magma or stir fry on stove. If we're out for 2 weeks have to go back to civlization to pump out after 5-6 days anyways so will stock up with fresh food.
 
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Apr 5, 2009
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Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
... I'm wondering if bread will be possible. I'm not sure the temps will be hot enough.
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We have a Princess propane oven, not a Force 10 but should be similar. It is plenty hot to bake bread. Too hot on the bottom without some adjustments. Sue uses two heavy aluminum cookie sheets or bread pans to prevent the bottom from getting too done and that seems to work for us.
 

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Oct 22, 2014
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Princess propane oven
Sounds like a fitting brand for the lady who refers to herself as the Galley Wench... I think that is what I remember hearing aboard the boat...

I can be a witness to her skills as a Chef.
 
Apr 5, 2009
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Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
Sounds like a fitting brand for the lady who refers to herself as the Galley Wench... I think that is what I remember hearing aboard the boat...

I can be a witness to her skills as a Chef.
Please, you miss spelled it. The proper title is The Galley Winch. Not only can she cook but she is also an excellent sailor and made the spinnaker which is my avatar. :beer:
 
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