Panting Rod, how tight?

Nov 6, 2020
252
Mariner 36 California
Getting ready to re-install my panting rod sometime this week. . I know it should be tightened while in the water but not having any luck determining how tight it should be. My best guess based on its function would be just snug plus a little extra so that it has just a slight pull down on the deck but not too much. It seems to me it should work in a way thats similar to rigging. Any feedback would be appreciated if anyone knows.
 

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Oct 22, 2014
22,208
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Never have I had to deal with a panting rod.
This link on Cruisers Forum may be helpful.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
12,265
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Getting ready to re-install my panting rod sometime this week. . I know it should be tightened while in the water but not having any luck determining how tight it should be. My best guess based on its function would be just snug plus a little extra so that it has just a slight pull down on the deck but not too much. It seems to me it should work in a way thats similar to rigging. Any feedback would be appreciated if anyone knows.
The purpose is to keep everything tied together as tension is increased on the rig. It does not need much pressure. The recommendation for the Hall spar on my boat is 5 ft lbs, essentially a little more than hand tight.
 
Apr 8, 2010
2,039
Ericson Yachts Olson 34 28400 Portland OR
When Bob Perry specified a hold-down device for the cabin top on his V-40, he referred to it as a "tie rod". It was a short piece of rigging wire from housetop down to the cabin sole area and secured to the mast base casting, IIRC.
That might be what the OP is referring to, although I have never seen it as described as a "panting" rod.
Many builder use other ways to secure the housetop against the up force of heavily loaded halyards. Some simply pin the casting thru the spar that holds the turning blocks. Others have a short cable inside from the mast up to a tang on the cabin top.
Anyhow, as Dave advises, just set it up snug. No further adjustment needed.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
When Bob Perry specified a hold-down device for the cabin top on his V-40, he referred to it as a "tie rod". It was a short piece of rigging wire from housetop down to the cabin sole area and secured to the mast base casting, IIRC.
That might be what the OP is referring to, although I have never seen it as described as a "panting" rod.
Many builder use other ways to secure the housetop against the up force of heavily loaded halyards. Some simply pin the casting thru the spar that holds the turning blocks. Others have a short cable inside from the mast up to a tang on the cabin top.
Anyhow, as Dave advises, just set it up snug. No further adjustment needed.
Hall Spars also calls it a tie rod. Using a Nyloc nut is a good idea as there will not be enough tension on a plain nut to prevent working loose from vibration and movement.
 
Nov 6, 2020
252
Mariner 36 California
When Bob Perry specified a hold-down device for the cabin top on his V-40, he referred to it as a "tie rod". It was a short piece of rigging wire from housetop down to the cabin sole area and secured to the mast base casting, IIRC.
That might be what the OP is referring to, although I have never seen it as described as a "panting" rod.
Many builder use other ways to secure the housetop against the up force of heavily loaded halyards. Some simply pin the casting thru the spar that holds the turning blocks. Others have a short cable inside from the mast up to a tang on the cabin top.
Anyhow, as Dave advises, just set it up snug. No further adjustment needed.
Thanks, yes thats the one. On my boat It goes through the roof and bolts to the mast collar on top and to the mast step on the bottom.
 
Nov 6, 2020
252
Mariner 36 California
Nov 6, 2020
252
Mariner 36 California
Hall Spars also calls it a tie rod. Using a Nyloc nut is a good idea as there will not be enough tension on a plain nut to prevent working loose from vibration and movement.
Good to know. They had two nuts on mine that locked each other together. Nyloc might be easier. It will be a pain to access once the mast boot is on.
 
Feb 26, 2004
22,901
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Mine has a turnbuckle. I tightened it until the creaking of the wooden mast wedge stopped.