TotalBoat Lust vs. Cetol
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I applied Lust to my stern seats. They’ve only been on for 1.5 years now, but they still look great. My dock neighbor’s boat is loaded with brightwork and he asked what i used. I mean, only 1.5 years but hey, it’s a data point.
My memory is somewhat fuzzy here. I had brought the seats home and it ended up being my covid project. Either 5 or 6 coats. Application is dead simple with the short recoat time. I only sanded the layer prior to the final layer. I was going to post a picture, but there's no way I'm following Ralph's artwork.
Fake wood? You've given up dealing with it ? You removed it ? You sold the boat ? The boat burned/sank ?
Always the eternal optimist.
Five coats of System 3 epoxy and three coats of varnish. The epoxy is the fast part because it's ready for the next coat when the previous coat is still tacky.
I have often considered that method. Any reason for using system 3 ? I have a bunch of west system but I figure that the clear hardener would be the one to use.
I always understood that the varnish layers would need occasional recoat.
Use any brand of clear epoxy as they're all the same. The System 3 instruction manual is excellent.
According to the bible, the varnish does a much better job over epoxy rather than wood as epoxy supplies a rock hard base. Seems to work in my case.
Remember this one phrase "hermetically sealed" and you're guaranteed success.
Oh, well, I was hoping to hear from folks regarding Cetol vs. Lust.
Yes, I know. I was hoping to hear comments regarding longevity, as I said in the original post.
Too many factors to give a definitive answer, really depends on the application and the application of the product.
In general Cetol does a better job than most finishes on toe rails because it breathes, until it is covered with gloss.
In general Cetol does a better job than most finishes on toe rails because it breathes, until it is covered with gloss.
Ah, please elaborate! I was thinking of a bunch of coats of Cetol natural followed by a couple of gloss.
I've used Lust, Gleam, and Halcyon. I really like Halcyon and used it extensively on interior woodwork. It's easy to work with, dries quickly, low VOC, and has a finish I like and comes close to matching the factory finish.
Four years ago I used Gleam on some exertion teak, most of it has held up well.
Bob Emser on The Art of Boatbuilding uses Lust thinned to 50%. I tried that on some exterior woodwork this year, it goes on easily, flows nicely, dries quickly. It takes some skill to keep the varnish on the brush between the tray and the work piece, the 50/50 mix tends to flow off the brush quickly.
Cetol is permeable to water vapor, this helps it to adhere to wood that gets wet. The vapor can escape instead of lifting the finish off the wood. In applications such as toe rails which are often immersed, this is an advantage.
Carol gloss is not vapor permeable. The main benefit of Cetol is lost.
Cetol also uses pigments which tend to hide the wood's beauty.