Discharge of sewage over 3 miles

Jan 7, 2011
5,477
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
My surveyor noted that the sewage discharge system should be permanently disabled and the thru- hull fitting capped.
Now my insurance wants me to do exactly that...

Is this customary?
Aren't we allowed to discharge passed 3 miles from the coast (I know, not recommended)

Thx
Only on the ocean, and not even all of it…can’t discharge anywhere around the Hawaiian Islands.


I am anchored off the Indiana Dunes Lakeshore tonight…took a swim to shore to take some photos…hope I don’t swim through any of your :poop:!


Greg

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Johann

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Jun 3, 2004
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Leopard 39 Pensacola
Only on the ocean, and not even all of it…can’t discharge anywhere around the Hawaiian Islands.


I am anchored off the Indiana Dunes Lakeshore tonight…took a swim to shore to take some photos…hope I don’t swim through any of your :poop:!


Greg
I believe the OP is taking the boat to the Bahamas and Caribbean. There are no pump outs there, its direct discharge only.
 
Dec 2, 1997
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- - LIttle Rock
Educate me, Don...I already knew that relying on a seacock a bad idea...what IS the correct way to seal off a thru-hull long term, but not permanently?

--Peggie
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,241
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Likely because the surveyor presumes no one is ever going to take a 27 ft boat through the Great Lakes and down the Hudson River to open water.
If you follow his previous posts, I believe @xavpal has bought a much larger sailboat from some location on Lake Erie and is bringing it back to Milwaukee. I think @Johann offers a practical solution. Just disconnect the hose, install sure safe plugs at both ends, and re-connect when and if the boat is brought to the ocean.
 
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Sep 25, 2008
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Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Educate me, Don...I already knew that relying on a seacock a bad idea...what IS the correct way to seal off a thru-hull long term, but not permanently?

--Peggie
Bungs are a temporary fix intended to avoid sinking. They can release due to constant vibration. Imagine the reaction someone’s insurance underwriter has upon learning a boat sank because a wooden bung hammered into an unused thruhull was used to seal it.
In this case, it would be safer to either blank off the thruhull or remove it entirely.
 
Oct 6, 2007
1,121
Hunter H30 1982 Chicago IL
When I bought Dalliance, it had the overboard discharge pump handle secured with a zip-tie, a Y valve, ancient hoses and a dubious gate valve that hadn’t been operated in years. The boat had always been on Lake Michigan and will be for as long as I have it, so that portion of the system had never been used.
While others need the flexibility, I saw the whole thing as an unnecessary risk and got rid of it. Removed and glassed in the through hull and replaced the remaining hoses and supply seacock.
I now have an unquestionable closed system compliant for inland waters and one less thing to worry about.
 
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Oct 6, 2007
1,121
Hunter H30 1982 Chicago IL
Or cap the seacock with the correct thread type.
Careful. He’s in Milwaukee. Water trapped between the valve and the cap could freeze and split the whole thing open. Not something you have to think about down in Florida. Capping the through hull with no valve on it, as kappykaplan suggested, would be safer.
 
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Jun 8, 2004
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Catalina 320 Dana Point
Put a wire tie on and forget about it, NOBODY is ever going to look at it again anyway. I've had CG Aux. safety inspections, been boarded by CG off a cutter, for a "safety inspection", had Avalon Harbor patrol put dye tablets in the head, none have EVER even looked at it.
 

LloydB

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Jan 15, 2006
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Macgregor 22 Silverton
I may be overthinking this but in my mind a through hole fitting in my boat if I had one is not a sanitary system if it is not hooked up to a waste tank. On the other hand if the bucket tips over and makes a mess my insurance company won't clean it up because I'm pretty sure it's not covered (both the pot and the cost) unless I have taken measures to make sure that would not happen. Maybe.
btw wouldn't the water temperature the boat is floating in maintain an above above freezing temperature to the residual water that might be under a cap that is on the other end of the through hull
 
Jun 21, 2004
2,804
Beneteau 343 Slidell, LA
You are in a “no discharge zone” on a lake. The 3 mile limit applies in the ocean and then there are exceptions to that as well.
Correct me if I am wrong. I believe there is a 3 mile limit on the Atlantic coast of Florida and a 9 mile limit on the Gulf Coast side of Florida. Designated no discharge zones in Destin Harbor, Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary, & the Key West City Harbor.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Careful. He’s in Milwaukee. Water trapped between the valve and the cap could freeze and split the whole thing open. Not something you have to think about down in Florida. Capping the through hull with no valve on it, as kappykaplan suggested, would be safer.
Absolutely! I wasnt clear apparently. I meant capping the seacock from inside the boat, not from the outside, with the ball value in tact which would allow it to be closed or drained when necessary but still leave the seacock intact as he plans to use it in the future.
 
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Sep 25, 2008
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Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Correct me if I am wrong. I believe there is a 3 mile limit on the Atlantic coast of Florida and a 9 mile limit on the Gulf Coast side of Florida. Designated no discharge zones in Destin Harbor, Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary, & the Key West City Harbor.
There are probably more exceptions than those with which I am unfamiliar, I.e., intercoastal, numeros bays with barrier islands, Cape Coral, etc… I forgot about the Dry Tortugas area.
 
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Oct 6, 2007
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Hunter H30 1982 Chicago IL
Absolutely! I wasnt clear apparently. I meant capping the seacock from inside the boat, not from the outside, with the ball value in tact which would allow it to be closed or drained when necessary but still leave the seacock intact as he plans to use it in the future.
You were clear. I knew you meant cap it on the inside. Problem is that you then have to remember to open and drain an otherwise unused seacock every winter lay up, but yes, it does leave it intact for future use.
 
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