Dockside water connection

Sep 25, 2008
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Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Don, I certainly respect your experience in this area, but, are you saying I'm wasting my money paying for the environmental damage rider on my yacht policy? I don't know first hand, but I've heard horror stories of small boat owners being fined for things as trivial as a bit of sheen on the water at the fuel dock. Can this be so?
The definition with which I am familiar in insurance policies equates environmental “damage” to the cost of cleanup and any applicable restoration. This is what environmental liability insurance covers.

It may seem like a small distinction, however, the environmental damage assessment to which I referred is used to quantity damages in monetary terms includes such things as habitat loss and the economic impact of lost fisheries, the multi-year loss to shellfish, the potential for mutations in subsequent generations of stuff harvested from the sea, etc…. These are rigorous and expensive studies essential to quantify impact and without which no one can demonstrate environmental impact. This isn’t something done after a small boat accident nor is it generally worth it.

Its comparatively easy to put a price on cleanup cost and that is the liability at issue here. I merely (and perhaps I eloquently) point out the difference.

I recognize experience and perceptions vary - mine is that a dock hookup like anything else on a boat requires periodic inspection and maintenance but doesn’t seem (to me) to be any greater risk than the pressure water supply feeding all of our homes which many people ignore.
 
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Feb 5, 2004
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Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
I recognize experience and perceptions vary - mine is that a dock hookup like anything else on a boat requires periodic inspection and maintenance but doesn’t seem (to me) to be any greater risk than the pressure water supply feeding all of our homes which many people ignore.
It depends on how one quantifies risk. My home has iron and copper pipes feeding the pressurized water. Boats do not. They use some random kind of hose. My house has copper plumbing. Most boats do not.

When my flexible water hose to my washing machine fails it will flood the basement. When a hose on a boat that's connected to town water fails, it can sink the boat. The difference in loss is large. I can still sleep in the house. The boat, not so much.

I'm surprised at those who try to argue that the risks are equivalent.
 
Sep 25, 2008
7,256
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
I'm surprised at those who try to argue that the risks are equivalent.
neither of us can quantify the relative risk so arguing which is greater is a function more of opinion than fact.
Having said that, some variables include:

more plumbing in house vs. boat =greater risk
houses generally more expensive than boats = greater $$$ risk
most people ignore house pressure water when they go to work; lots of boaters generally turn off pressure water when away = greater risk
Mold remediation in a boat can be a DIY project; in a house, it can make it uninhabitable = greater risk.
 

jviss

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Feb 5, 2004
7,089
Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
neither of us can quantify the relative risk so arguing which is greater is a function more of opinion than fact.
Having said that, some variables include:

more plumbing in house vs. boat =greater risk
houses generally more expensive than boats = greater $$$ risk
most people ignore house pressure water when they go to work; lots of boaters generally turn off pressure water when away = greater risk
Mold remediation in a boat can be a DIY project; in a house, it can make it uninhabitable = greater risk.
Well, yea, if my house sinks I'll let you know. :)
 
Jun 1, 2009
1,793
Hunter 49 toronto
Well, yea, if my house sinks I'll let you know. :)
Wow! Lots of people climbing all over this.
Here is my 1/50th of a dollar opinion

it is very convenient having a shore water connection. The water is much more palatable than tank water, and your showers can last as long as you wish.
And just shut off the the dock feed when you leave the boat. It’s really that simple. Sorta like locking your front door when you’re leaving the house.
If you do this, then your risk is basically zero.
And, when I go on vacation for a week, (in the winter), I definitely shut off the house water. Takes one minute, and there is zero downside.
But, I just wouldn’t do this every time I go to the store.
Well installed boat plumbing is reasonably robust.
The thing that nobody has mentioned here is frequent checks of your bilge pumps.
And a good policy…..
Every single time I go sailing, I do bilge checks immediately after running the engine, and during the sail (if it’s many hours long)
My bilge is cactus-dry… so any water is a sign that I should be looking for something
 
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