Experience with Feathering Prop, considering for an Alden Caravelle.

May 4, 2015
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Hello All,

On Wind Song, the original, I think, 2 bladed fixed prop is fitted. It performs very well going ahead, without excessive propeller induced vibration, and can push into a seaway and standing waves (cape cod canal!). Going astern with this prop, unpredictable walk it seems. However, not possible to lock the prop with current transmission when sailing, so it is whirring away, adding drag. Ideally would like to lock in the vertical position in the aperture. Have been looking at "Shaft Lok" system, which I like. I have not found any others, any recommendations? Surprisingly with engine to shaft coupling and replacement of gland nut with new dripless mechanical shaft seal there is not 2" of room on the shaft for this locking system. I like the reliability and durability of the 2 bladed prop. Anyhow still working on solutions, such as an alternate short distance coupling ete. In worst case looking at a new feathering prop, it would appear MaxProp have a good reputation. Although concerned by some posts regarding people unable to get them to feather, which could be due to numerous reasons.

I am curious if any of you have experience with this maker or others on your Alden, in particular considered those vessels with a propeller aperture and if those flow characteristics have any impact on ability to feather or stay feathered.

Thanks!

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May 25, 2012
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john alden caravelle 42 sturgeon bay, wis
i have a brake on my shaft. custom made i suspect. goes around the coupling. locks the 2 bladed prop vertically. low drag. came with boat 50 years ago.

band looks like an omega. band is strapped with pad. cable comes up to lever next to helm.

quite simple in design
 
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Jan 4, 2006
7,092
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Anyhow still working on solutions, such as an alternate short distance coupling ete.
Time for some research :

1. What make is your transmission and what does the mfg. spec for the prop under sail. In gear for locked position or free wheeling.

2. You do not want to leave your prop locked (if possible) if you can have it free wheeling as it adds to the drag as proven by test a few years back by @Maine Sail .
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,092
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Found it.

 
May 25, 2012
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john alden caravelle 42 sturgeon bay, wis
Time for some research :

1. What make is your transmission and what does the mfg. spec for the prop under sail. In gear for locked position or free wheeling.

2. You do not want to leave your prop locked (if possible) if you can have it free wheeling as it adds to the drag as proven by test a few years back by @Maine Sail .
that test means nothing for an alden caravelle with a 2 bladed sailing prop.

apples and oranges.

locked up verticle in the aperture is the fastest. as per the design of the boat.
 
May 25, 2012
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john alden caravelle 42 sturgeon bay, wis
not 2 bladed

not hidden behind the keel in the aperture of a caravelle.
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,092
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
locked up verticle in the aperture is the fastest. as per the design of the boat.
I must confess, I didn't look at the shielding of the prop offered by the keel. Once a two or three bladed rotating prop exposed itself to the flow, I agree you COULD have additional drag. Unfortunately, measurements are impossible due to the size of the structure.

Out of curiosity, how do you align the prop with the keel once the engine is shut down and what holds the prop in that position ? Do you come to a full stop in the water and then align ? Any pictures ?
 
May 25, 2012
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john alden caravelle 42 sturgeon bay, wis
when the prop is in water flow it spins. when verticle the pressure to spin is little.
as your moving at speed apply light brake pressure. the prop stops with the light brake when out of the stream, then lock it up. when racing, i double check the shaft to make it perfect. i have the shaft marked.. it's easy to view
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,092
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Thanks for the explanation. I've never seen a Carvelle in the flesh before but the arrangement seems like a good idea for reducing the prop drag.
 
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