So the missing piece of information here is where and when?
Glad you figured it out
dj
DC electric panel troubleshooting
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Glad you figured it out
dj
It doesn't really make any sense that there should be 2 breaker switches and a switch in the head and each of the switches turn the water pressure pump and bilge/shower drain pump on and off simultaneously. You should be able to turn your water pressure pump on and leave it on without activating the bilge/shower pump. It is normal for a switch in the head to activate only a shower drain pump, I'll give you that.
How is it possible for you to activate the bilge and water pressure pumps independently from each other?
How is it possible for you to activate the bilge and water pressure pumps independently from each other?
If the shower switch is in the off position then each of the bilge pump and water pump switches work normally and independently.
If the shower switch is turned on (- as it would be for a shower) both the water pump and the shower (and secondary?) bilge pump are powered together so that you don’t pump water - over flowing the bilge (bilge pump not on) or burning the bilge pump out by pumping with no water.
An interesting method to deal with these potential issues for sure. It also allows shower use to be controlled from the head even if only one of the two pumps is switched on at the main panel.
If the shower switch is turned on (- as it would be for a shower) both the water pump and the shower (and secondary?) bilge pump are powered together so that you don’t pump water - over flowing the bilge (bilge pump not on) or burning the bilge pump out by pumping with no water.
An interesting method to deal with these potential issues for sure. It also allows shower use to be controlled from the head even if only one of the two pumps is switched on at the main panel.
Sa
I assume he wanted one of the outlets “always on”, so he wired in with the fridge. He also had a piece of tape over the breaker so you couldn’t easily turn it off.
In the case of the water pump and shower sump, maybe the logic was
-the shower sump is only needed when the water pump is on…
- the shower sump has its own switch, so it can stay off when not needed, and the water pump is on
So why not put them on th same breaker?
I have a shower pump switch in my head as well, but it also has its own breaker on the panel.
Greg
Same reason I found 1 of my 3) 12-volt outlets wired into the same breaker as the fridge
I assume he wanted one of the outlets “always on”, so he wired in with the fridge. He also had a piece of tape over the breaker so you couldn’t easily turn it off.
In the case of the water pump and shower sump, maybe the logic was
-the shower sump is only needed when the water pump is on…
- the shower sump has its own switch, so it can stay off when not needed, and the water pump is on
So why not put them on th same breaker?
I have a shower pump switch in my head as well, but it also has its own breaker on the panel.
Greg
Well, this is logical ... that's exactly how my shower drain pump works. It is on the same breaker as the water pump but there is an on-off switch for the drain pump in the head.
The wiring that @crownjewel describes has the bilge pump, which also happens to function as the shower drain pump wired together with the water pump, and both pumps are served by 2 breakers. He describes switching both pumps on simultaneously with either the bilge pump breaker or the water pressure breaker. This is what I can't wrap my head around. Now he discovers a switch in the head, but he doesn't seem to describe what is served by the switch. It would make some sense if the switch served just the drain/bilge pump. But does that mean if he wants to drain the bilge he has to make sure that both the breaker and the switch in the head is closed (on)? That sounds like a bad deal to me. If I need to drain the bilge in a hurry, I want only one switch on the breaker panel to reach for.
I guess there is some logic that Beneteau has for putting the shower drain and the bilge drain on the same pump (it saves an additional pump) but I'm not fond of the need for a diverter valve serving the bilge. Besides, there is still no explanation for the 2 pumps being served simultaneously by 2 different breakers. Why? He described flipping either breaker and both pumps running. How does he maintain water pressure if he has to turn a breaker (or both) off to stop the bilge pump from running? no explanation ....
I guess I'm sort of getting this ... still not exactly sure ... but perhaps this it!
I thought the OP said that he didn’t realize the shower sump pump switch was on in the head…shut it off and all is well.I guess I'm sort of getting this ... still not exactly sure ... but perhaps this it!
At least that is what I thought to be the case.
Greg
All of it seems so oddly put together and there is no explanation or diagram (other than the Beneteau plumbing diagram Ted provided) that I guess I don't really know what "all is well" really means. I'm guessing that @twalker H260 figured it out, so, since this really isn't my concern, I'm trying to put this out of my brain!
Here, I will help you…I'm trying to put this out of my brain!
what ever happened to the Boat Babe?
Greg