Bottom Paint?

Apr 26, 2022
9
Precision 23 N Miami Beach
Hi,

Still in the procewss of buying my boat, pricing out costs. I saw some posts on doing your own bottom painting. How much should it cost to have someone do this for you?
 
Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
Depends on type of paint (hard or ablative), racing finish or not, corkage fee for customer supplied paint, number of coats and whether it needs primer (if it has never been bottom-painted or lost some or all of its barrier coat it will need preparation and barrier coats). Cost for 1 coat includes:
  • Haul, pressure wash, environmental fees, place on stands, launch
  • Prep and paint bottom
  • All materials, including the bottom paint, required for prepping and painting the bottom, (tape, sandpaper, sanders, paint trays, rollers, covers, protective gear, etc.).
  • Racing bottom is sprayed on with hard paint
  • Sales tax is applied to all materials
  • Top quality bottom paint
Suggest contacting the boatyards in your area OR find a private mobile boat contractor who will do it at a DIY marina for labor and material quotes. Many boatyards have an on-line published rate sheet to easily obtain a quote :). If you want to find out the quantity of paint required go to link like this Bottom Paint Calculator (bottompaintstore.com) then contact them for paint quote (hard or ablative). Consult with your boat bottom cleaning diver for paint recommendation suitable for your area and your type of boating (cruising or racing).
 
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Jan 1, 2006
7,468
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
First check to see if your yard even allows DIY bottom painting or prep. Sanding dust and paint chips usually need to be disposed of with a hazardous waste contractor and application of bottom paint is regarded as application of pesticide, which may require a license in many areas. For those two reasons many boatyards simply don't allow it.
I'm an adherent to the clean bottom school of sailing. I need a smooth bottom for any sailing not just for racing. I've raced my boats with a sub-optimum bottoms but they are always largely smooth and always clean. I know a number of club level racers who use ablative bottom paint which doesn't build up and don't require periodic stripping and re-painting. They usually get in the water sooner in the spring too.
Sometimes I've slipped into the boatyard with a spatula to remove barnacles which were left after haul out. If I didn't they would get painted over.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,700
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Dave, based on that price I can afford to sail my boat from San Francisco to the Florida Keys to get a bottom paint job then sail back.
It was not my first choice, however, given the circumstances it was really the only choice. After a couple of thousand miles, two haul outs with power washing, and bottom cleaning a couple of times the paint was not looking all that healthy. The boat was out of the water for a transmission issue and if I got the bottom job I would not be charged storage fees. In some ways of accounting it was practically free. ;)

Have you priced Panama Canal transit fees lately?
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,158
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
I'm in San Diego. My last bottom job in 2018 for my 27 footer was done by local boatyard. I paid a total of $1025 with and extra lay day . It included haul out, power wash and basic prep, 2 coats of their hard shell paint( Interlux bottom kote) plus an extra layer on waterline and leading edges of foils. Haul out includes 1 day free. Extra lay days are 3 bucks a foot if you need more time to do some additional chores. Separately, the haulout runs about 550, the charge for paint is $175/gal, a pressure wash is $125.... so... I think it was a fair deal...

To answer your question "How much should it cost to have someone do this for you?". It depends....ha,ha,hah it always depends. Where is your boat now? In the water on a trailer. If it's on a trailer... you might not have to pay for a haul out... so just a gallon of paint and a guy that knows what to do could be the answer. Decide on the paint (shop around, you can get decent paint for under $150/gal) and offer the laborer $200 for 4 hours work and figure another $50 on supplies. paint roller, masking tape, drop cloth, mixing tool for your electric drill, and a few sheets of 80 grit sand paper. If you can't find a guy.... do it yourself. You'll learn a lot. It's actually one of the easier jobs you'll do... you just have to figure out how you're gonna jack the boat up enough to get full coverage. There is more that one solution to that problem.

If the boat's in the water in a marina, you're gonna need a haul out. So.. in you're area, I have no idea... but I'm thinking $500. And if that's the case... ask the boatyard folks that do the haul out for a quote. And also ask them about DIY regs and costs.

Careening.. where you lay the boat on it's side on shore when the tide goes out used to be pretty common in rural areas.... but....you're probably not ready for that.

Bottom line..... How much should you pay for a basic bottom painting job for a 23.5 foot sailboat. My answer is max. 850
 
Apr 8, 2011
772
Hunter 40 Deale, MD
So here's a screenshot of the lowest cost ablative bottom paint package from a very large marina in Deale, MD, south of Annapolis:

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So for my 36 foot boat it would run me $810 FOR THE PAINT PACKAGE. But here's the catches:
1. This doesn't include the haulout, pressure wash, block, storage, and re-launch costs, which are additional. That'll probably run you another $400+
2. This is only for one coat of paint. That's Ok for one season, but you'll have bare spots by the end of the season if you sail it a reasonable amount. I coat with two - and put another coat on the high wear areas (e.g. front of wing keel, bow, front of rudder, etc.)
3. I've seen the guys at this marina (and its ostensibly a pretty good one) do a bottom job on a boat. They barely sand the bottom at all, and certainly don't sand and fair chipped paint, or mitigate rust on an iron keel, etc, etc. Its a quick and dirty job for that price, and they are not skilled. So you're getting a quick sand job, paint slapped on, and relaunch. That's OK, but you should really spend some time prepping the bottom so the old paint is a good surface for the new, and the new paint has good coverage.
4. You MUST replace your zincs, and you SHOULD paint your shaft and prop with something. Some just use their bottom paint (you can check that box above); others go with expensive coatings, I just use zinc paint from Home Depot which in our brackish water works as well as anything. So either you do it while its out of the water, or you'll need to add the zinc replacement, and the paint prop & shaft if you're having them do the work, so that'll add a little bit.

I haul out for winter every other year, put 2 coats of multi-year bottom paint on the boat in spring after careful prep in the fall, and then do a short haul in the intervening year to pressure wash, replace zincs, inspect, and re-launch. Its well worth my time, is less expensive, and I know she's got a solid bottom job.
 
Jul 1, 2010
990
Catalina 350 Port Huron
I recently had the bottom painted, light sanding and 2 gallons of Micron 66 by a boatyard in the florida keys, about $1500 for a 36' boat, plus haul out.
Meanwhile, back on the Great Lakes (Erie to be exact), I just did mine myself today. Cost me 2 qts of VC17 for a 35' boat. Gotta love VC17. I think I just like it enough not to ever go to saltwater with this boat. It'll be a drag if we ever do cause I'll have to pay someone to soda blast it all off.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,700
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Meanwhile, back on the Great Lakes (Erie to be exact), I just did mine myself today. Cost me 2 qts of VC17 for a 35' boat. Gotta love VC17. I think I just like it enough not to ever go to saltwater with this boat. It'll be a drag if we ever do cause I'll have to pay someone to soda blast it all off.
I sanded off the old VC 17, almost 5 gallons of sanding dust. I'll never use VC 17 again. The problem is the copper builds up and when sanding it is burnished into a sheet of copper which does not sand off easily. :(
 
Jul 1, 2010
990
Catalina 350 Port Huron
I think paying someone with a blaster would be the only way to go. It wipes off with alcohol, but I can't imagine ever trying that. It's too bad that VC offshore doesn't have any good reviews that I've ever seen. That could be painted over VC17.