I thought that's what you meant, but best to clarify. I have been managing a small marina for a couple decades and have seen boats tied up in a variety of ways... some (significantly) better than others!
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But I have never understood why people would hang fenders off the lifelines…that seems like the worst place to hang a heavy fender.
If I have to hang a fender, I usually hang it on my toe rail. Having a cleat on the stanchion seems better than hanging it on the lifeline…. What am I missing?
Greg
I use the Davis Fender Tender II to hang my fenders from the lifeline and it is very convenient and easy to position. They clip on and off in seconds and stay where you put them. I figure that if my lifelines are not strong enough to support a couple or three fenders, then I might as well remove them because in that case they would be completely useless as safety equipment.
I was on a (Power Boat) recently and the owner had an innovative way to secure a bumper. He cut a length of PCV pipe of about a foot. The diameter of the pipe fit into his fishing pole holders. He drilled a stop - a bolt or piece of metal so the pipe wouldn't go down too much in the fishing pole holder and to hold the fender at the right height. And he tied the fender line to the pipe. So it was an easy matter to pick the fender with pipe out of the bilge and slide it into the fishing pole holder. Perfect position. Done!
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From to OPs..."...wondering what these are ..." to tic tack etiquette.... I find drift so interesting.
Regarding the tying of fender whips to the lifelines....
The fender weight is not a problem, but what happens is that the fender jams tight between boat and dock or between boat and boat, and when the boat rolls a LOT of strain goes to the lifeline. You can use turn buckles to take up slack, but it's better not to create the problem in the first place.
As someone here once said: "your boat your rules", so you can certainly secure them as you wish.
The fender weight is not a problem, but what happens is that the fender jams tight between boat and dock or between boat and boat, and when the boat rolls a LOT of strain goes to the lifeline. You can use turn buckles to take up slack, but it's better not to create the problem in the first place.
As someone here once said: "your boat your rules", so you can certainly secure them as you wish.
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I have a wandering mind. And I don't mind it a bit. Some threads run out of gas. But get new life out of a comment that is related but not on topic. I don't think it's a bad thing.From to OPs..."...wondering what these are ..." to tic tack etiquette.... I find drift so interesting.
I hear you, but I spent 10 years sailing in an area with ~9 meter tides (for those that are metric challenged, that's about 30 feet of tidal shift) - fenders going up and down against walls and boats was well known. In fact, I used to use that tidal shift to clean my hull. Take the boat into the port, tie up against a rock wall, put fenders on the wall side (tied to my life lines), let the tide go out (making sure the boat leaned against the wall so it didn't fall over), and then proceed to pressure wash and do the bottom paint. I could usually do it all in one tidal shift, but a couple times it took two shifts.
Never had a problem with my fenders tied to my lifelines...
dj
Ok…that is true, but I see lots of boats with toe rails hanging fenders on the lifelines…
as @FastOlson said, a rocking motion can put a lot of strain on the lifelines and stanchion.
one of my marina neighbors was making fiberglass repairs to his deck under several of his stanchions last year…I asked what happened…he had fenders tied to the lifeline and tied up to a wall in a pretty busy “play pen” in Chicago.
lots of big boats move in and out of there on a nice day, and enough wake to tear his stanchion bases out of the deck glass.
i would use the base of the stanchion if if I didnt have a slotted toe rail.
But “Your boat, your rules”.
Greg
My wive and I were on the island of Curacao. The hotel had a man made cove with direct access in the Caribbean. The first morning I went up the Concierge to inquire about a tide chart. The way he looked at me told me he knew not of what I'd asked. After a few moments, he asked me what I was talking about.. " You know, when the water goes out before it comes back?" ..... "Oh dhat, da water doesn't go nowhere mista, it jus stay dhere all da time, ya know"... Sure enough, about a 6" tide. Coupled with the light surf is impossible to really measure....~~(\__~~
I love it here. Moored right off the outer dingy dock. Very very nice community and yes, a very calm and protected area.
Had that happen a couple times. Made a soft shackle of spliced 3/16” line, put it on one of the shroud turnbuckles and now attach the burgee halyard to that loop with a snap shackle.