grinding sound starting??

RoyS

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Jun 3, 2012
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Hunter 33 Steamboat Wharf, Hull, MA
Concerning Yanmar 2QM and Thermostart. The QM series were only built for two years, if I recall correctly. The design included pre-combustion chambers and relatively low compression. Pre-combustion chamber engines usually have glow plugs, but not the QM's. I am speculating that Yanmar quickly abandoned the QM because of this design issue. Hard cold (initial) start seems to be a chronic problem with this engine. Once warmed up it starts immediately for the rest of the day. As for wiring, connect to the existing start button feed. In practice, you will only press one button at a time; first, the Thermostart for 20 seconds, and then the start button. On mine I purchased a start button from Yanmar for the Thermostart. A single No. 10 wire to the Thermostart terminal completes the wiring. It is grounded to the engine block by way of screwing the body into the dedicated port on the intake manifold. Another necessary modification on this engine is to re-route the diesel return line back to the fuel tank and not to the fuel filter housing. On the way back, you can use this line to keep the thermostart reservoir full. With the return line, as originally designed, going to the fuel filter, you will likely experience air in the fuel line from time to time, necessitating bleeding at the worst possible time.
 
Jul 20, 2020
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Hunter 30 1001 Nyack NY Hudson River
Concerning Yanmar 2QM and Thermostart. The QM series were only built for two years, if I recall correctly. The design included pre-combustion chambers and relatively low compression. Pre-combustion chamber engines usually have glow plugs, but not the QM's. I am speculating that Yanmar quickly abandoned the QM because of this design issue. Hard cold (initial) start seems to be a chronic problem with this engine. Once warmed up it starts immediately for the rest of the day. As for wiring, connect to the existing start button feed. In practice, you will only press one button at a time; first, the Thermostart for 20 seconds, and then the start button. On mine I purchased a start button from Yanmar for the Thermostart. A single No. 10 wire to the Thermostart terminal completes the wiring. It is grounded to the engine block by way of screwing the body into the dedicated port on the intake manifold. Another necessary modification on this engine is to re-route the diesel return line back to the fuel tank and not to the fuel filter housing. On the way back, you can use this line to keep the thermostart reservoir full. With the return line, as originally designed, going to the fuel filter, you will likely experience air in the fuel line from time to time, necessitating bleeding at the worst possible time.
Thanks Roy
 
Jul 20, 2020
61
Hunter 30 1001 Nyack NY Hudson River
My 2QM15 was hard to start when cold until I installed a device called a "thermostart". Not thermostat. Thermostart device is made for Yanmar tractors which may have to start in cold weather. Look under "tractor supply" on line and you will find them. There is a mounting port already on your engine, just behind the air cleaner. You need to run a No.10 ga wire from a starter type button to power it. I push that separate starter button and hold it for 20 seconds, release that, then push the starter button. Engine starts almost immediately. Uses diesel fuel. This has nothing to do with your grinding
 
Jul 20, 2020
61
Hunter 30 1001 Nyack NY Hudson River
Installed the Thermostart yesterday, think I need to prime the system several more times to get it to work properly, started on the usual 3rd crank.....
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RoyS

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Jun 3, 2012
1,742
Hunter 33 Steamboat Wharf, Hull, MA
Remove the air cleaner and look inside while you press the thermostart button. You should see visible flames and smoke. Hold button for twenty seconds, then release and press starter button. My 2QM15 starts cold best with the throttle wide open. Immediately lower throttle when engine starts.
 
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Jul 20, 2020
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Hunter 30 1001 Nyack NY Hudson River
Remove the air cleaner and look inside while you press the thermostart button. You should see visible flames and smoke. Hold button for twenty seconds, then release and press starter button. My 2QM15 starts cold best with the throttle wide open. Immediately lower throttle when engine starts.
Definitely firing!! Thanks for the suggestion!!