Expedition Evans youtube

May 17, 2004
5,429
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
Hard to assess how far along they are just from the YouTube videos - those are several months behind. They did a real-time update about 2 months ago where the boat was all put back together and they’re living on it successfully so far. Given that result I don’t think it’s fair to say they’d have been better torching it. Who knows what they spent - probably plenty but doing all the work themselves I don’t know how it would compare with the cost of another boat. Plus they have all the knowledge gained of the boat and how to do that kind of work now. We are all sailors - who are we to say that you shouldn’t do something because it’s more expensive than the alternative? A boat isn’t an investment, it’s a way of spending money on an experience. They chose this experience over a turnkey one and their enthusiasm doesn’t seem to have waned. There have been warts along the way, but all in all I say good for them.

Edit: To clarify, I’m talking about Expedition Evans. I haven’t seen Yaba.
 
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Jan 7, 2011
5,218
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
Now that SV Yaba is a little further along, I stand by my original assessment from afar: They were dumb to buy it in the first place, and even now it would be better to light a match and let that thing die.
Odd, on the other hand..Wow! Much better process from my view.
Both of them make me wonder how in the heck they are affording all this. Does a YT channel really make that much money? Is there a fat trust fund sitting somewhere?
I keep wondering the same thing...but maybe labor is really cheap in Brazil.

Pretty soon, that will be a completely rebuilt boat!

Greg
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,230
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Both of them make me wonder how in the heck they are affording all this. Does a YT channel really make that much money? Is there a fat trust fund sitting somewhere?
This inquiry comes up a lot about YouTubers. Some of them are pretty open about their income sources. Brett seems to have a job flying for Ohana Airlines in Hawaii. Ohana is a subsidiary of Hawaiian Airlines and mostly serves the smaller islands. He no doubt makes a decent salary, but it is probably not 6 figures. They have 158 subscribers on Patreon, at $1 a video times 4 videos a month that's at least $600 a month from that source, probably more. Ad revenue from YouTube is reportedly low, however the last video had 113,000 views, there are a few dollars coming in there. A large source of revenue is merchandise sale. They are selling T-shirts for $30 a pop. Good profit there. Then there are the Amazon affiliate links. They way those links work, the referrer (Expedition Evans in this case) gets a cut on any Amazon purchase, not just the referred item, within a certain time period, I think it is about 24 hours.

So there are multiple revenue streams for the YouTubers. Really successful ones like Delos, La Vagabonde, and Sailing Uma can make 6 figures or close. Some also have reduced expenses as they get deeply discounted or free equipment. And there are affiliate links, Jamestown Distributers support a lot of boat builders and wood workers with affiliate links. The links often provide a discount or free shipping in addition to providing a commission to the site owner.

The YouTube gig is potentially profitable, but it is also a lot of work. For every minute of video there is one to two hours of work in pre and post production. So, I don't begrudge them for making money, their job is entertaining us. The most entertaining and informative YouTubers do well, others, not as much.

I've sold a few videos to Good Old Boat Magazine, if I figure the hourly rate for my work it is about the same as I made cleaning up Cracker Jacks and other debris at a concession stand at Jones Beach in 1968, about a $1.42 an hour.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,375
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
You can't imagine the time I spent making and editing the video of our sailing trip from Stuart to Greenport. Yes, I started from scratch but nevertheless - oh, I didn't make any money at all - it was a lot of time. I did learn some skills but mostly I concluded that I'm not going to live long enough to make any money at this.
I just participated in a delivery of a V456 Four Winns from Annapolis to Ft. Lauderdale. I will post a narrative and some pics on my gmail account once I'm finished. But no video!
 
Apr 3, 2020
191
Hunter 23.5 Frenchtown, MT
I should say that I don't begrudge them any revenue they can make from the videos. I quite enjoy watching some of them, especially on long cold winter nights when I can only dream of sailing. I do have a 3 ad limit though. Lately it seems that YT/alphabet have been REALLY cramming the ads into the more popular channels. So, after the 3rd advertisement I just move on. I'm sure there's stuff that I miss, but it's not entertaining enough to make me want to spend 40 minutes watching 15 minutes of actual content. Besides, I'm pretty confident the "motley fool" doesn't really care about making me money, so much as separating me from mine.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,230
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I should say that I don't begrudge them any revenue they can make from the videos. I quite enjoy watching some of them, especially on long cold winter nights when I can only dream of sailing. I do have a 3 ad limit though. Lately it seems that YT/alphabet have been REALLY cramming the ads into the more popular channels. So, after the 3rd advertisement I just move on. I'm sure there's stuff that I miss, but it's not entertaining enough to make me want to spend 40 minutes watching 15 minutes of actual content. Besides, I'm pretty confident the "motley fool" doesn't really care about making me money, so much as separating me from mine.
I have some standards. If the ad is 15 seconds or less I let it run. If I really like the site and the ad is greater than 15 seconds and less than 1 minute I may let it run while I check email or go to the bathroom. If the ad is 1 minute or longer, I wait the 5 seconds and hit the skip this ad. The little popups at the bottom of the screen don't bother me, I just close them.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,375
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
Uhm. I don't have a lot of patience for the ads. Short ones I'll sit through, Some are 10, 15, 20 minutes. No way. Despite all the hype about data, they are showing me ads that are so far out of my interest areas. It's hard to believe. The gals in dresses look nice but I learned decades ago that buying a dress for your lady based on an image of another women wearing it, is a no win - no win situation. Just don't do it!
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,230
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Google tracks everything, hitting the "Skip Ads" buttons will send a message more targeted than closing the window. I now see ads that are 5 or 6 seconds long. I'll tolerate that. Google wants you to buy an ad free YouTube subscription.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,375
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
Everyone wants me to buy a subscription - and probably auto-renewing. I don't and won't do any of that. Without some care you can easily hit several hundred dollars a month in subscriptions. For some it's almost impossible to cancel. No way, no how.
 
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May 17, 2004
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Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
Google wants you to buy an ad free YouTube subscription.
I did the free 30 day trial of YouTube Premium when the app offered it to me. It was pretty nice not having any ads. But at $12/month I couldn’t justify staying with it.

By the way, from what I’ve read an ad counts as an “impression” (ie the creator gets paid) if you watch either the whole ad or 30 seconds, whichever is shorter. So if you’re just watching the ads to support the creator you could hit skip at 31 seconds without taking anything away. (Unless/until YouTube changes their policy on that.)
 
Aug 10, 2020
519
Catalina C25 3559 Rocky Mount
while not professional, i think they did a good job. It all looks strong and thoroght, maybe not the prettiest in places.

Sailing Aurora is doing the same/similar repair on a new boat. He hired his out and they are doing it in polyester. the work looks incredible. his glass guy is top notch.
 

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Sep 11, 2009
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beneteau first 42 kenora
OK......................
The admiral and myself have been having this cultural debate about the two people taking on this rebuild project.
Basically i'm not a big fan of todays younger generations approach and apperance. But have been respectful of their progress on the hull repairs. Young or old it takes fortitude to stay with a project as i can speak to having taken on a bigger project than theirs.
But come on!!!
Watched their last episode on thru hull replacement. As many on this site have viewed Groco Flange valves are the best and safest. Why they screwed on a ball value directly to the thru hull at this stage of the project is beyond explanation!!!!!
The admiral just cannot listen to the giggling after each and every statement, fast forward is critical, yes i know,you don't have to watch,yes i get it but really i have wanted to support and watch love the boat and wish sucess for them.
Just a guess.... but if they could just stop all the giggling, unless a good drug is envolved,like to know what it is, the folks would probably have a bigger audience.
Someone needs to get a message to them that they just made a critical MISTAKE!!!!! If you know how to please do!!
 
May 17, 2004
5,429
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
Looks like they replaced with the same design arrangement as OEM, but with better metals. That’s not top of the line, but it’s also the same arrangement many production boat builders use. They did preface the installation saying they’re not really upgrading the installation, which I’d take as admission that they had done some homework and decided to stick with the way things were.

As for the giggling - they just sound enthusiastic to me, and their ability to keep that enthusiasm through what some would describe as drudgery is part of what I like about them.
 
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Jan 7, 2011
5,218
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
Looks like they replaced with the same design arrangement as OEM, but with better metals. That’s not top of the line, but it’s also the same arrangement many production boat builders use. They did preface the installation saying they’re not really upgrading the installation, which I’d take as admission that they had done some homework and decided to stick with the way things were.

As for the giggling - they just sound enthusiastic to me, and their ability to keep that enthusiasm through what some would describe as drudgery is part of what I like about them.
Right...and they mentioned that they were not “upgrading” at this time. But maybe later.

I am not sure why they tore out that one thru-hull, but at least they replaced it in kind with a quality thru hull.

I have to give them credit...way bigger job than I would take on. Hope it works out for them.


Greg
 
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Mar 20, 2016
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Beneteau 351 WYC Whitby
OK......................
The admiral and myself have been having this cultural debate about the two people taking on this rebuild project.
Basically i'm not a big fan of todays younger generations approach and apperance. But have been respectful of their progress on the hull repairs. Young or old it takes fortitude to stay with a project as i can speak to having taken on a bigger project than theirs.
But come on!!!
Watched their last episode on thru hull replacement. As many on this site have viewed Groco Flange valves are the best and safest. Why they screwed on a ball value directly to the thru hull at this stage of the project is beyond explanation!!!!!
The admiral just cannot listen to the giggling after each and every statement, fast forward is critical, yes i know,you don't have to watch,yes i get it but really i have wanted to support and watch love the boat and wish sucess for them.
Just a guess.... but if they could just stop all the giggling, unless a good drug is envolved,like to know what it is, the folks would probably have a bigger audience.
Someone needs to get a message to them that they just made a critical MISTAKE!!!!! If you know how to please do!!
Really , I think they did a great job ,is it the best heavens no. I have changed mine out to groco flange adapters ,bolted to G10 backing plates epoxied to the hull. I also have access to a machine shop , and I'm a millwright/ machinist .Could your wife do better , mine couldn't . They also didn't do the rudder bearing right , again they are not machinists and it is a tolerance fit and needs a plug machined to fit to size of bearing hole correctly and they know it ,he sent me a comment .
Like said above it was done the way Beneteau did it from the factory and it doesn't meet ABYC for side load ,but passed a survey for insurance . They are also under time restraints to get the boat launched I .didn't find anything to "giggle " at, I wish my wife could do work like that and it's safe and look forward to their videos without criticism.