Second hand electronics.....some. radar yes. Chartplotter and depth finder. Idk yet. Radio yes. Antenna probably not. Il go threw the entire motor of course. And check it bow to stern
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I wasn't buying into this the way it was first presented. But your post #38 is changing my view. I've never sailed the West Coast so I am reluctant to give my opinion of your voyage plans. But as a 65 year old guy who always put responsibility above adventure, I have the prospective that what ever comfort I have doesn't make up for the adventure I missed.
Good luck. Discomfort be damned. If it's adventure you seek then that's what you should have.
Good luck. Discomfort be damned. If it's adventure you seek then that's what you should have.
I love that. Discomfort be damned.
I'm 34. Going threw a divorce. I'm ready for an adventure
jssailem
SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
- Oct 22, 2014
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Ok this last statement helps to understand the gestation for this idea.
I’m not sure I understand what you want from the knowledgeable sailors here.
Nearly all of the members are boat owners. We have a perspective, such a trip is dangerous. The ocean, even though it is called the Pacific, it is merciless. We will look at a boat not based on cost or resale value but the ability of the boat to survive and carry us home to a port. Even boats of the same age and builder can be graded A or F. Your question about two boats of unknown age or condition can only result in, “no one can tell!
We will look at weather with an eye to immediate and future developments. Knowing that some areas of the coastal Pacific have caught professional fishing skipper by surprise and they have lost boat crew and life due to over confidence or blind neglect. Sometimes it is just having been too long on the ocean or overcome with seasickness.
What would you do, having been at sea for 2 days. A storm came up. You have had nothing hot to eat due to water getting in and destroyed your stove. When you approach the bar at Charleston OR the CG says the bar is closed to all boats.
This is just one of the many life or death scenarios you need think through.
You might find just the same adventure you crave heading straight to Florida. The costs might be a lot more favorable. The sailing in warm water of the Keys can be a lot more forgiving for a sailor wanting a steep learning curve.
I’m not sure I understand what you want from the knowledgeable sailors here.
Nearly all of the members are boat owners. We have a perspective, such a trip is dangerous. The ocean, even though it is called the Pacific, it is merciless. We will look at a boat not based on cost or resale value but the ability of the boat to survive and carry us home to a port. Even boats of the same age and builder can be graded A or F. Your question about two boats of unknown age or condition can only result in, “no one can tell!
We will look at weather with an eye to immediate and future developments. Knowing that some areas of the coastal Pacific have caught professional fishing skipper by surprise and they have lost boat crew and life due to over confidence or blind neglect. Sometimes it is just having been too long on the ocean or overcome with seasickness.
What would you do, having been at sea for 2 days. A storm came up. You have had nothing hot to eat due to water getting in and destroyed your stove. When you approach the bar at Charleston OR the CG says the bar is closed to all boats.
This is just one of the many life or death scenarios you need think through.
You might find just the same adventure you crave heading straight to Florida. The costs might be a lot more favorable. The sailing in warm water of the Keys can be a lot more forgiving for a sailor wanting a steep learning curve.
jssailem
SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
- Oct 22, 2014
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Here is free link to a good site.
www.morganscloud.com
Is It An Adventure?
John agrees with most everything Matt wrote about buying a starter cruiser…except one thing.
www.morganscloud.com
We were anchored at, I believe, Frys at Santa Cruz Island in July of 2008. The night before we had anchored at Bechers Bay, Santa Rosa Island, in 25 ft depth SE of the pier. The wind had been building all afternoon and by late evening it was in the low 30’s. It basically kept up until near dawn when it backed off to around 15 kt. Not wishing to do another night like that one, we weighed after dawn and went to Frys. There we met a solo sailor in a Pearson 34 who had sailed down from the Bay Area a couple of days earlier, and had anchored that previous night at Cuyler Harbor, San Miguel Island. He told us of his night there with winds in the low 40’s, etc. Also, BTW—it was quite cold.
We usually have the VHF switched on and tuned to Ch 16 when out there, sometimes until late in the night. That night when we were all aboard the Bavaria socializing, we started hearing Sector Los Angeles issue a report of a solo sailor in a Catalina 27 who had departed San Francisco for Los Angeles and was a day or two overdue, and had not been heard from. It repeated several times during the night; there was no ensuing cancellation that we heard. I’m sure many of us have heard similar reports. But it was a little eerie for us since we were out there and were very aware of the conditions of the past two days along the coast. Made the whole thing more personal.
Anyway, adventure or whatever someone might be wishing to experience, the sea can become a serious place at just about anytime. One does not “win” in a contest with the sea, unless perhaps you’re Captain Bligh. The trick is to avoid a contest. The only way you can do that is to know what you are doing in the first place being out there. That, and good luck!!
We usually have the VHF switched on and tuned to Ch 16 when out there, sometimes until late in the night. That night when we were all aboard the Bavaria socializing, we started hearing Sector Los Angeles issue a report of a solo sailor in a Catalina 27 who had departed San Francisco for Los Angeles and was a day or two overdue, and had not been heard from. It repeated several times during the night; there was no ensuing cancellation that we heard. I’m sure many of us have heard similar reports. But it was a little eerie for us since we were out there and were very aware of the conditions of the past two days along the coast. Made the whole thing more personal.
Anyway, adventure or whatever someone might be wishing to experience, the sea can become a serious place at just about anytime. One does not “win” in a contest with the sea, unless perhaps you’re Captain Bligh. The trick is to avoid a contest. The only way you can do that is to know what you are doing in the first place being out there. That, and good luck!!
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Just finished reading a foolish voyage. Great book. Very enlightening. I will re read it many times before I set out
1. It's almost always cheaper to buy a boat already equiped and in good condition
2. You're highly unlikely to turn a profit
2. You're highly unlikely to turn a profit
That's not enough of an adventure for you??? Yours must be a lot easier than my last one was...
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jssailem
SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
- Oct 22, 2014
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If you liked that one the second book will be even more enlightening. Happens right on the waters that interest you.
Even before you test yourself with a boat on the Aberdeen to Westport sail go sailing with some Westport locals out in the ocean. Find an owner who has sailed in the ocean and offer to crew. Leaving Westport through the channel is revealing. The channels through mudflats, the breakers, the Bar, all prepare a sailor for the ocean. Riding a swell that looms up behind your boat 12 plus feet above your head. Wind in your sail trying to keep the boat going as it seems to slide backwards into the next one that now wants to descend on you from on high. Some take to this nonstop assault on your senses. Others find it frightening or retching spending time leaning over the side chumming the fish.
We do not know how we will react till we experience it. So I suggest try it on a small sail boat before you jump into the project.
Halfway through the second book. To be honest very informative. But only making me want the adventure more.
GIsawyer, I pretty much like your attitude. You take criticism and discouragement well, I think. I like that you don't take it as an insult. You appear to listen with respect. It's clear that you are seeking adventure and won't be discouraged. I think we all understand irrational desires, we are sailors after all! 
Sterling Hayden said “The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked with dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it, the tomb is sealed.” “To be truly challenging, a voyage, like a life, must rest on a firm foundation of financial unrest. Otherwise you are doomed to a routine traverse.” Those are a few of my favorites. Take what you can from our comments and let us know how things work for you!
Sterling Hayden said “The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked with dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it, the tomb is sealed.” “To be truly challenging, a voyage, like a life, must rest on a firm foundation of financial unrest. Otherwise you are doomed to a routine traverse.” Those are a few of my favorites. Take what you can from our comments and let us know how things work for you! 
So I found out Westport does not have a boat lifting ability. So if the boat is in decent shape looks like it may have to be beached to do a hull scraping. I've done 1 scrape before on the cal 22. That was about 4inches of growth from years in a river never being moved. So not my 1st time but dosent make it any more fun of a prospect
There is a wealth of books to read about sailing. It will be hard to know where to stop. 2 of my favorites having to do with solo sailing are:
1. Single Handed Sailing - Andrew Evans
2. Across Islands & Oceans - James Baldwin
You would probably gain a lot from the knowledge in the first and the spirit of adventure, particularly in the 2nd.
1. Single Handed Sailing - Andrew Evans
2. Across Islands & Oceans - James Baldwin
You would probably gain a lot from the knowledge in the first and the spirit of adventure, particularly in the 2nd.
I try to listen. I am not a pro. Very far from. So if I expect to live and be successful with my dream then I need to listen to advice form people with far more knowledge then meGIsawyer, I pretty much like your attitude. You take criticism and discouragement well, I think. I like that you don't take it as an insult. You appear to listen with respect. It's clear that you are seeking adventure and won't be discouraged. I think we all understand irrational desires, we are sailors after all!