So true. Just used 15 as an example. Seeing 5 guys on a boat all of about the same age might trigger a question warranting a stop by the DNR.
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What if the hoosegow doesn’t have the area it needs for proper distancing? Then, what is accomplished in terms of public health? Nothing. So it becomes a punitive act, and THAT is what is going to get folks riled up.
I was really talking more figuratively rather than literally, however, hauling them in and if they have been drinking, make some responsible sober person come get them. Give them citations and let them spend some money on lawyers.
Fine. We don’t need lock-down rules to do that. It’s already something law enforcement could do, if intoxication is involved.
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i always sail with a crew. hence the boats stays in the shed. where i summer and sail the virus has not hit yet. i assume the the wave of sickness is just delayed. it will show up this summer maybe.
15 people on aeolus: maybe 5 years years ago on a beautiful summer day i took lots of family and friends out for a sail. while waiting for the bridge with about 25 other vessels the local police boat is heading straight for me. they keep coming on a bee line. they pull up 5' away and i said hello. i'm thinking this is an awful time to be inspected, plus what did i do to get picked out of the crowd. the officer explained that it was boater safety week and they noticed that all the kids on board, including teenagers, and the captain were wearing their life jackets and that we were picked to be given coupons for free ice cream cones at Hardee's paid for by the dnr for practicing safe boating. it was great reinforcement for the kids. yeah, i'm a safety geek
15 people on aeolus: maybe 5 years years ago on a beautiful summer day i took lots of family and friends out for a sail. while waiting for the bridge with about 25 other vessels the local police boat is heading straight for me. they keep coming on a bee line. they pull up 5' away and i said hello. i'm thinking this is an awful time to be inspected, plus what did i do to get picked out of the crowd. the officer explained that it was boater safety week and they noticed that all the kids on board, including teenagers, and the captain were wearing their life jackets and that we were picked to be given coupons for free ice cream cones at Hardee's paid for by the dnr for practicing safe boating. it was great reinforcement for the kids. yeah, i'm a safety geek
I remember a crowded day on the lake and the cop boat started heading my way. My kids were on the bow but both had their PFD's on. I saw one of the cops checking us out with binoculars and after pointing the binocs at the bow... he said something to the driver and they veer'd off. I guess we passed his test...
Much of Southern Florida along the ICW had somehow usurped our right to anchor, decades ago. When we first cruised the ICW in the late 80's we were surprised by NO ANCHORING signs along the waterway in the Palm Beach area. It seems the legality of these local bans has always been in question but I think various localities down south still restrict and enforce NO anchoring.
It was easy to see why as there were real problems with derelict boats, some occupied, that were the focus of the No anchor areas. Seemed like a social problem that should have been taken care of locally but there was my right to anchor in Federal water, gone.
Kings Gambit, Depositing any raw sewage into Florida waters, regardless of method, is illegal...
(unless you are a waste treatment plant).
(unless you are a waste treatment plant).
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That's not entirely accurate. The Federal Regulations specify that sewage "means human body wastes and the wastes from toilets and other receptacles intended to receive or retain body wastes" and discharge means "includes, but is not limited to, any spilling, leaking, pumping, pouring, emitting, emptying or dumping" (Link to regs here.) Since our bodies are not designed nor intended to receive or retain body wastes, what comes out of our bodies is not sewage until it lands in a receptacle intended to receive or retain body wastes. So, peeing overboard might get you a citation for indecent exposure or public urination, it is not the same as discharging sewage.Kings Gambit, Depositing any raw sewage into Florida waters, regardless of method, is illegal...
(unless you are a waste treatment plant).
Actually Florida law allows the discharge of treated sewage aboard a boat. See this document:
Notice that the solid human waste deposited directly onto the streets of San Francisco and elsewhere where there are are many homeless is generally referred to as excrement, feces, or poop. Generally, not sewage; which is “waste water and excrement conveyed in sewers.”
BTW, “raw sewage” is untreated sewage, not what you’re (ggrizzard) evidently thinking.
BTW, “raw sewage” is untreated sewage, not what you’re (ggrizzard) evidently thinking.
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What was it?Boy, has this thread gone to.
Time to close it or rejoin the original topic.
So many ways to take this....
Avoiding all of them.
Back to the original topic. It was stated the marinas are open but are you allowed to go out in boats and if so are there restrictions? Most marinas in Maryland are open as there are considered essential. Recreational boating is NOT allowed. Fishing for "food" is. The real joke is that this includes the ability to pack up to TEN unrelated people in a charter fishing boat so they can fish for "food". The better joke is these 10 unrelated people have to practice social distancing on their charter fishing boat (or any other boat for that matter). Meanwhile you are not allowed to go sailing by yourself or with members of your household. Maryland is typically a common sense state in that regard but this is just plain stupid.
Here in Maryland recreational boating ban is still in effect but has been modified.
"You can bring your boat from home to put into your slip/mooring/land store.
You can have your boat launched and put into your slip/mooring (if you have one here at Bay Boat for the summer)
You can have your boat launched and you are allowed to move it to another marina (make sure you check with your marina to see if they will allow you to come in).
You are allowed to travel into Maryland from another state by roadway and waterway to bring your boat to the marina."
DNR is canvassing the upper-Chessy looking for violators and appears DNR is being pretty heavy handed by reports of drilling down on fishermen making sure they are actually keeping their legal catch for consumption. Being able to move your boat from your winter storage area to your summer location will put boaters trying to accomplish this under scrutiny. Being boarded by DNR and put through the ringer about what I'm doing out on the warter is not my idea of fun.
"You can bring your boat from home to put into your slip/mooring/land store.
You can have your boat launched and put into your slip/mooring (if you have one here at Bay Boat for the summer)
You can have your boat launched and you are allowed to move it to another marina (make sure you check with your marina to see if they will allow you to come in).
You are allowed to travel into Maryland from another state by roadway and waterway to bring your boat to the marina."
DNR is canvassing the upper-Chessy looking for violators and appears DNR is being pretty heavy handed by reports of drilling down on fishermen making sure they are actually keeping their legal catch for consumption. Being able to move your boat from your winter storage area to your summer location will put boaters trying to accomplish this under scrutiny. Being boarded by DNR and put through the ringer about what I'm doing out on the warter is not my idea of fun.
My friends who live there don't call it the PRM (People's Republic of Maryland) for nothing