Just got my MH-40 back

May 20, 2004
62
Hunter MH 40 Noank, CT
So a little more than a month ago, I take the guys from work out for a day sail out of Noank/Mystic, CT. After a bit of sailing I ask for a vote where folks want to anchor for lunch. The vote is for Watch Hill/Napatree on the CT/RI border. So i motor around Stonington Point and up the Little Narragansett Bay channel, which is supposed to be 6 feet. I draw 5'2". I had been through the channel a week earlier with my wife and everything was fine. So around green can #7 I'm going about 4kts and inside the channel (per the nav aids) which I can see has been recently changed as it doesn't match the chart plotter. I'v got 5'9" of water per the sounder which is set to read from the sounder, thus giving me a little extra margin of safety.

BOOM! the boat heaves up, drinks fly. Still have steerage and thrust, no -one is hurt and I go down below to check for water intrusion. No water, but floor boards don't fit right and gel-coat has flaked off the interior of the bilge.

A quick call to the marina fro an emergency haul-out. When the boat is hauled, I can see a small area where I hit the port wing on the keel, but no damage running under the keel. Keel to hull joint is cracked. Doesn't look all that bad, though. Well, think again.

After inspection by the local best in the business (Nick Sahin), it is found that stringers have come delaminated in 8 spots. Apparently the hull flexed severely when the keel was hit. When the guy gets into the job, he finds that several of the stringers were not tabbed on the starboard side of the boat. There was still mold release on the mating surface of the hull and the epoxy never bonded from the factory. $36k job. Sahin did the repair in a much heavier duty fashion with more layers of lamination and said that the fix should be stronger than it was supposed to be from the factoryThank goodness for good insurance, but I'm sure I'll be paying it back in premiums in the next few years.

So maybe this was a good thing as something would have inevitably failed. This really hurt as I questioned my seamanship. I have great local knowledge and have sailed these waters for years. I have local paper charts and none of the scale that I have show a rock there.

I contacted the USCG New London. The Auxie that answered the phone said that there have been a lot of incidents there and he referred me to the nav aids section out of New Haven. A week of leaving messages finally got me a call back from Coast Guardsman who explained that the cans had been moved due to sand shoaling and there was a lot of discussion with the Stonington Harbormaster. He said that there'd been incidents and he was going to ask his supervisor if they can move the cans.

Boat splashed in in Thursday and looks like brand new, save a little bit of dust that was missed during cleanup. We had a very short season as it was due to moving our house and some warranty issues with the boat. We'll sail her later today or tomorrow and make sure everything is up to snuff.
 
May 20, 2004
62
Hunter MH 40 Noank, CT
Yup. And can 7 was moved north so some of those rocks are inside the channel.
 
Jan 12, 2011
930
Hunter 410 full time cruiser
zigracer;1241478. So i motor around Stonington Point and up the Little Narragansett Bay channel said:
I never would have gone into such a channel at low tide. This is what I learned from going aground in what was suppose to be a 7' channel with a 5'2" draft boat!
 
Oct 1, 2007
1,865
Boston Whaler Super Sport Pt. Judith
Yup. And can 7 was moved north so some of those rocks are inside the channel.
The reason for my interest in this is that we sail out of Point Judy and think about Watch Hill frequently, but have not gone in there in many years. Absent this discussion I don't think I would have have noticed the 4 ft mark in the channel shown on the NOAA chart. So it is unlikely I'll ever go in there again unless they dredge or find a way around that 4 ft section.
 
May 20, 2004
62
Hunter MH 40 Noank, CT
I had not been through there for about three years-maybe four, which was back when I had my H260. The 260 drew 6' with the board down and I would sail the channel anytime but low tide. At low tide, I'd pull the board up and motor. I noticed that the cans had been moved earlier in the week as they didn't line up with what was on my chart plotter or chart. At the time, I didn't have Lighthouse Raster chart set up in my C95, so I couldn't get zoom detail. My paper charts were good, but didn't get large enough scale to show what the Fisher's Island pack shows. The channel had been listed as 6' for several years, and I never imagined that they would put the nav aids so that rocks were inside the channel. My wrong assumption. I was closer to the north side of the channel then Sandy Point as thee had been traffic on the Sandy Point side. Now I know why. I will follow up on this more, but the word in the area is that there have been many incidents there lately and the USCG is aware of it. I'd say to hug the Sandy Point side, but I've heard that it has been shoaling and that is why the cans were moved.

I always took pride in my caution and having good local knowledge, so I'm a little humbled. I don't mind sharing my story if it will help anyone else out.
 
Oct 1, 2007
1,865
Boston Whaler Super Sport Pt. Judith
Much appreciated. I'd like to know how Coastie decided to put that can north of the rocks. Especially since the rest of that channel is 6 to 6-1/2 ft at low. Seems like at the minimum they should have a note on the chart warning of frequent changes in the channel as they sometimes do.

This subject has opened my eyes in some respects as regards my reliance for the most part on my chart plotters in the cockpit and below. I maintain paper charts also and always have the appropriate chart open on the nav station but more and more I don't give it a glance except in route planning. I do keep my charts up to date though in the winter using the LNM posted by NOAA.

Well, today I looked at the section of channel in question on my two chart plotters and they showed 7 ft for the length of the channel ! Of course the software hasn't been updated since new in 2007 but who knows what they would say even with a recent update.

Next I went to my best paper chart look at Little Narragansett Bay which is 12372, which incidentally shows as discontinued for some reason. I have a note on the chart saying the channel as of 2013 is 4-1/2 ft in that section near the 7 buoy. I probably never would have seen that note with my current SOP. Next step is to download the latest software for my chart plotters to see what they have.

So who wants to weigh in? Do we all use only our chart plotters? How do we protect ourselves from this kind of misfortune which struck the OP?
 
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Oct 6, 2010
19
Hunter MH40 Solomons, Md
Zigracer - What hull do you have? I just purchased Hull 12 last December. I am wondering if I might see some of the same issues. My Hull 12 was built in March 2013.
 
May 20, 2004
62
Hunter MH 40 Noank, CT
I have hull#103. I wouldn't worry too much about that - just the luck of the draw with production boats. I must say, however, that this is the best sailing boat that I've ever helmed. Graceful and fast. Goes equally as well under power too.
 

Mikem

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Dec 20, 2009
823
Hunter 466 Bremerton
So a little more than a month ago, I take the guys from work out for a day sail out of Noank/Mystic, CT. After a bit of sailing I ask for a vote where folks want to anchor for lunch. The vote is for Watch Hill/Napatree on the CT/RI border. So i motor around Stonington Point and up the Little Narragansett Bay channel, which is supposed to be 6 feet. I draw 5'2". I had been through the channel a week earlier with my wife and everything was fine. So around green can #7 I'm going about 4kts and inside the channel (per the nav aids) which I can see has been recently changed as it doesn't match the chart plotter. I'v got 5'9" of water per the sounder which is set to read from the sounder, thus giving me a little extra margin of safety.

BOOM! the boat heaves up, drinks fly. Still have steerage and thrust, no -one is hurt and I go down below to check for water intrusion. No water, but floor boards don't fit right and gel-coat has flaked off the interior of the bilge.

A quick call to the marina fro an emergency haul-out. When the boat is hauled, I can see a small area where I hit the port wing on the keel, but no damage running under the keel. Keel to hull joint is cracked. Doesn't look all that bad, though. Well, think again.

After inspection by the local best in the business (Nick Sahin), it is found that stringers have come delaminated in 8 spots. Apparently the hull flexed severely when the keel was hit. When the guy gets into the job, he finds that several of the stringers were not tabbed on the starboard side of the boat. There was still mold release on the mating surface of the hull and the epoxy never bonded from the factory. $36k job. Sahin did the repair in a much heavier duty fashion with more layers of lamination and said that the fix should be stronger than it was supposed to be from the factoryThank goodness for good insurance, but I'm sure I'll be paying it back in premiums in the next few years.

So maybe this was a good thing as something would have inevitably failed. This really hurt as I questioned my seamanship. I have great local knowledge and have sailed these waters for years. I have local paper charts and none of the scale that I have show a rock there.

I contacted the USCG New London. The Auxie that answered the phone said that there have been a lot of incidents there and he referred me to the nav aids section out of New Haven. A week of leaving messages finally got me a call back from Coast Guardsman who explained that the cans had been moved due to sand shoaling and there was a lot of discussion with the Stonington Harbormaster. He said that there'd been incidents and he was going to ask his supervisor if they can move the cans.

Boat splashed in in Thursday and looks like brand new, save a little bit of dust that was missed during cleanup. We had a very short season as it was due to moving our house and some warranty issues with the boat. We'll sail her later today or tomorrow and make sure everything is up to snuff.
A good friend of mine had a 2013 MH40 and had the same issues after a very hard grounding. Interior joinery removed, liner stringers retabbed...6 months $60k. Later, to rectify some paint issues the yard did not block according to service bulletins and the transom cracked. More repairs.
 

W7WZ

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Dec 15, 2019
3
Marlow Hunter 40 Charleston
Marlow-Hunter builds some of the best engineered and constructed boats in the world now and it would take a very, very hard grounding to do that much damage. No boat is invincible. I hope no one was injured in the grounding.
 

Mikem

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Dec 20, 2009
823
Hunter 466 Bremerton
Marlow-Hunter builds some of the best engineered and constructed boats in the world now and it would take a very, very hard grounding to do that much damage. No boat is invincible. I hope no one was injured in the grounding.
No injuries but it was a good thing the Canadian Coast Guard was around as she was taking on water. Hit a rock at 8 knots Ouch.