Atlantic Towers Dinghy Davits

Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
Considering dinghy davits for my Hunter 46. I am familiar with traditional davits by Garhauer, Kato, Forespar Nova, Edson Marine, Mar-Tek, Ocean Marine, St. Croix, and Sailboatowner.co as I installed this type on my Hunter 386. I also found rotating dinghy davits from Batsystem that my former marina neighbor installed his 46 foot Outbound but cannot find a US dealer. I also found a tall set dinghy davits from Atlantic Towers that one of my marina neighbors installed on their Beneteau (photo attached). Atlantic Towers provided a photo of their davits installed on a Hunter 46. Appreciate your feedback on your experience with the Atlantic Towers design.
 

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Jun 4, 2009
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Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
Would you really want all that weight and your dink back there on that Atlantic Tower system? A lot of folks go that route and I'd be interested in how throwing that much weight and windage that far up aft would actually affect the trim and sailing characteristics of a boat like yours.
We use regular davits which we redesigned to keep the dink parallel to (less windage) and clear of the water on all inter-island crossings, but I wouldn't go to sea with it there. Another absolute necessity, IMO, is that one should be able to pull their dink up with the motor on it even when sailing. This means it's secure in the anchorages and the bottom stays clean because it never sits in the water overnight.
Once folks start building rigs like that, they quickly clutter them up with antennas, solar panels and windgens, further altering the vessel's trim and sailing characteristics. I guess it comes down to convenience versus sailing sometimes.
 
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Oct 10, 2011
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Tartan 34C Toms River, New Jersey
As a former Tower builder I can offer some advice. Atlantic used and I believe still use swivel mounting pads, which are fine but are not as sturdy as a welded base. They were called tower in a box. Also the arch design has some port to starboard movement, unless it has a lot of inboard lean.
Personally I would recommend davits, just my opinion.
 
Nov 18, 2010
2,441
Catalina 310 Hingham, MA
We added an Atlantic Towers, Tower in a box almost a year ago. We love it. I researched for about 3 years for this upgrade and couldn't find anything other than custom work that I liked as much and would trust offshore.

Our boat is a Catalina 310 and we are in the Caribbean sailing the trades. We have been on passage with our dinghy with engine lifted on the davits in conditions up to 12-14 foot breakers with winds steady around 28 knots and gusts up to 35 knots. We have had zero issues with the arch or the dinghy.

I can answer any questions you have.

To address some of the comments so far. We cut the arch to be the same height as the Bimini. This was both asthetic and functional. The arch total weighs less than 200 lbs, probably close to 150 lbs and we went with the schedule 80 pipe. We have a 295 watt panel on top of the arch and it lifts the dinghy higher than our stern rail. We secure the dinghy with 3 rachet straps to avoid movement and chafe. We added Taylor fender pads to the arch where the dinghy contacts the arch.

I trust the socket system for the feet as much or more than any welded base. It is beefy, strong and allows for a perfect alignment with slopped decks. Once you have the placement done you secure the socket with thickened epoxy and 4 1/4" machine screws that you drill and tap. We actually used two different style feet because of access and space issues. When I have time I will move the diesel fill and use the larger base foot in that location after some fiberglass work.

The kit comes with metal backing plates. These are probably strong enough. But being the type of guy I am I put in hull reinforcements with 1/4" G10 board and still used the backing plates. I also potted every hole for the bolts to hold the plates in place, counter sank the holes and bedded with Bed-It Butyl Tape from Mainesail.

There is zero movement laterally. This is because we followed the instructions. I had concerns on this too when I started my research. I had seen arches that can away with a good push. When I asked the technical people at Atlantic Towers they emphatically respond that whomever installed that arch didn't follow the directions. And they were right. You have to "preload" the bend in the arch. You do this my using rachet straps to pull the feet together once you have set the width my drilling and bolting the middle piece into the two legs. They give you instructions on how many inches to pull the legs together, I think it was 8-9" at the factory length. Since we cut about 15 inches off the arch, my buddy, who is an engineer, worked out an adjustment. I think we brought them together 5", IIRC. Once you have the arch preloaded you finalize your foot placement and you secure the arch to the feet. Once everything is secure then you release the rachet straps. I'm a big guy and I can swing from the arch with no movement.

We are still working on adjustments to how we place equipment and use the arch. We added the solar panel as I mentioned. We also added a new stern light on the solar panel. The dinghy blocks the original stern light. I like having it higher anyways. We drilled holes in the arch and ran the wires inside, nice clean look.

The arch is aluminum, most of the stuff you will want to attach is stainless or uses stainless hardware. So you will need to think about isolation of the two metals as best you can. I use teff-gel for this when its machine screws and bolts. I used U-bolts to attach the solar panel and used Hypalon fabric for that.

Again, we love it. It has given us about a knot of speed back from towing the dinghy. Great security to lift the dinghy at night. The large solar panel has given us energy Independence.

We know several other cruisers with them and they are all happy. We know a few that have done a tower with an intergrated hardtop. I really like them but that would be out of our budget and pushing our weight limit.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Good luck and fair winds,

Jesse
 
Nov 18, 2010
2,441
Catalina 310 Hingham, MA
I can't add pictures in the app so I had to switch to the web version. Here are some pics.

This made me realize I haven't taken any good pics of some of these projects.
 

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Feb 21, 2013
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Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
That was an amazing video and on a Hunter 46. Sure hate to look forward to cutting an access hole if I install one.
 
Nov 18, 2010
2,441
Catalina 310 Hingham, MA
I just watched the video. They did a number of things differently from how I did. I would never bed hardware with thickened epoxy. I attached the base of the foot first so I could access the middle bolt. They didn't preload the arch and it had somemovement when he did pull ups. He didn't drill the drain holes in the legs. I mounted the davits on the top, not sure if that matters.

If you go with a tower, follow the instructions not this video.
 
Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
JK, Thanks for the installation advise!! Attached are the installation instructions I found on their web page. I need to confirm how far aft of stern it protrudes so it does not require me to move to a longer slip (47 feet now) and where the pads are installed into the hull and whether I need to cut an access hole in the stern cockpit lazarette (sure hate to do that).

Gee wish I could hire you to provide installation guidance!! I will talk to my boat project guy and a local rigger to confirm the installation.
 

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Nov 18, 2010
2,441
Catalina 310 Hingham, MA
JK, Thanks for the installation advise!! Attached are the installation instructions I found on their web page. I need to confirm how far aft of stern it protrudes so it does not require me to move to a longer slip (47 feet now) and where the pads are installed into the hull and whether I need to cut an access hole in the stern cockpit lazarette (sure hate to do that).

Gee wish I could hire you to provide installation guidance!! I will talk to my boat project guy and a local rigger to confirm the installation.
there are other instructions they only send you in the package. they are not on the website.
 
Nov 21, 2007
673
Beneteau Oceanis 34 Kingston, WA
@JK_Boston_Catalina310, what size dinghy do you have, or how much weight are you carrying on the tower? I am looking at them (Atlantic Tower), but I do a lot of research (ask a lot of questions) before I make a purchase of this size. One question is, what's the capacity? There is nothing on their web site regarding capacity. I have sent emails to three different email IDs, but nobody has responded.

My boat has very little support on the port side stern rail, and a tower may be a better solution than making a huge investment into reinforcing my stern rail (and restricting access to storage in that area).
 
Jun 14, 2010
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Robertson & Caine 2017 Leopard 40 CT
I would never bed hardware with thickened epoxy.
That. Butyl or 4000UV my preference. And he mentioned something at the end about snapping off a bolt head. It’s not a good practice to strongly torque bolts in fiberglass- it crushes the laminate and weakens the areas around the holes. I learned that from a top fiberglass pro who spent most of his adult life grinding and repairing other peoples screw ups.
 
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Nov 18, 2010
2,441
Catalina 310 Hingham, MA
@JK_Boston_Catalina310, what size dinghy do you have, or how much weight are you carrying on the tower? I am looking at them (Atlantic Tower), but I do a lot of research (ask a lot of questions) before I make a purchase of this size. One question is, what's the capacity? There is nothing on their web site regarding capacity. I have sent emails to three different email IDs, but nobody has responded.

My boat has very little support on the port side stern rail, and a tower may be a better solution than making a huge investment into reinforcing my stern rail (and restricting access to storage in that area).
I emailed for a quote and got a call back in within an hour. I'm surprised they aren't getting back to you.

I discussed this with them and ended up with a schedule 80 arch because of the weight vs. strength concern.

We have a aluminum RIB from Highfields that is 9.5 feet long. It's supposed to weigh around 130 pounds. We power that with a Suzuki DF15A that weighs 97 pounds. On top of that we have a 3 gallon fuel tank, a bench seat with life jackets, ladder, tool kit, two anchors and line. so I would guess the total weight is closing in on 300 pounds.

on top of the dinghy we have a 295 watt solar panel, a T-Bag holding 4 life jackets, a produce hammock and a life sling.
 
Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
I spoke to the rigger in my marina today and he said he can install the Atlantic Towers arch (with the Atlantic Towers instructions and JK's supplemental instructions) and, if he has to cut an access hole in the aft cockpit lazarette to access the forward most pad he will do it so it with a professional clean cut and cover. Now I just need to check the overhang to how much, if any, it lengthens my boat. Atlantic Towers says the towers will not lengthen the boat but will check with a marina neighbor that has one and one that was installed on a Hunter 46 in the video I attached earlier.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Beneteau 46 Georgetown YB
Had an Atlantic Towers arch on my last boat. Never had an issue carrying the dink under it and solar panels on top. My avatar was actually the centerfold of their brochure for a few years.
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Nov 21, 2007
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Beneteau Oceanis 34 Kingston, WA
For those who have installed the Atlantic Tower system, how short have you been able to trim the legs on the arches? I've finally been communicating with them, and they recommended an offset system for my boat, along with the comment that the forward leg usually "laces" through and under the top of the stern rail... I'm trying to keep an arch system (IF that's what I end up using) to about 60" above my cockpit seats (the height of my bimini) and minimize any overhang beyond the back of my transom.