Selling my Catalina 22 MKII - Precautions?

Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
My roomie took a call from a "poll" about vehicles. They asked what kind of cars we had. She was giving them out and I signaled her to hang up. The scammers would have known our two cars (in a townhouse developement) and waited for both of them to be gone then break in. Never happened.
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,565
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
... Please send me your full name, address, bank account information) so that I can send you a check for (the full amount, a deposit). ....
I like it! I think you should add social security number and date/city of birth to the list of needed information.
 

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Jan 20, 2005
1,031
Nauticat 321 pilothouse 32 Erie PA
we were selling our excellent - condition 1980 seafarer $25K, new engine, AC w rev cycle, new sails on goodoldboat. we got an email offer for sight- unseen ask price plus an extra 4K via a 'certified check' for the transport estimate to NYC. we suspected something was off , because all the emails were sent at 2 am and there seemed to be a strange usage of english not attributable to a UK accent. the 'certified check' for $29K arrived, drawn on a MD teachers' union credit union-- but their mistake was the check was dated 12-24 and every one knows NO union works on christmas eve. sure enough the accompanying written 'instructions' were for me to deposit the check then 'refund' the $4k 'extra' as they were now planning to show up (on the shores of lake erie, in december) ' to sail it to nyc as soon as possible themselves...' i had great fun jerking them around, thanking them profusely for the check and promising i was sending the 4K extra via money order immediately to the local address they provided in nyc, haha. meanwhile my bank verified with the credit union that it was a forgery, and as a courtesy we mailed the phony check to the credit union -- because it was a beautiful forgery and would have passed for real.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,588
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
I like it! I think you should add social security number and date/city of birth to the list of needed information.
Not to mention the name of your first pet, your grandmother's middle name, and your elementary school.
 
Sep 30, 2016
371
Island Packet IP 44 Ventura, CA
I frequently sell on Craigslist. A few of my notes and rules:
It is a scam if:
--They are emailing (or texting) for a friend and want you to email a third address.
--Will pay more, sight unseen. No one in their right mind would do this.
--They are unavailable for some dumb reason, but will pay ask price plus shipping cost (to seller) and have a shipper show up.

And I will never lower the price if they haven't even looked at the item. Classic CL opening line- "Whats your best price?" before any other questions asked. I learned to haggle when going to markets in the middle east. That kind of talk is for idiots. If Im in a mood I'll reply with "Well, how high are you willing to pay?"

That being said, I love Craigslist. Its FREE. Hard to beat that. And Im willing to deal with the occasional riffraff in trade. Ive never had a problem with an actual real buyer.
 
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Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
I received a call from a number with a NY area code. He was willing to purchase the boat unseen for more than the advertised price demanding I send him a copy of the Title Work. First I requested an address so a bill of sale could be sent to him that would also require a notary which he did in Los Angeles. Although I smelled a rat, I sent that to him requiring a notary signature along with a deposit.
Did no legitimate buyer, EVER.

Dave why would you even respond to this? Did you think for one second this was real?
 
Feb 11, 2015
212
Catalina 22 Lake Jacomo
You really just have to use your intuition. Most scams are pretty easy to spot but it's easy to mistake a legitimate buyer for a scammer as well. Absolutely everything I have ever listed on CL has gotten at least one scam attempt. The ballsiest one was on a pontoon I had renovated and was asking 7 grand for. Had a party who wanted it sight unseen for asking price, but they actually called me rather than the standard broken english email so I thought it was legit. Had a handful of correspondences with them and it was made crystal clear that this was a cash only sale. They claimed they were coming from northern Iowa but both of the phone numbers they had called me from were from Saint Louis (I'm in KC). They showed up on a Sunday evening with Indiana plates and a blank money order that was clearly counterfeit. They got very upset when I wouldn't accept it, then insisted I follow them to their bank where they could give me a cashier's check instead. Hmmm, still not cash, and remember it's a Sunday evening and they are supposedly from out of state, yeah, not gonna happen.

Another time I was selling a 15 year old pickup with over 350,000 miles on it. Within 30 minutes of listing a guy emails me and says he wants it for asking price but he's in Chicago on business for a few days and would wire some money to hold it and then would pick it up on his way back to Oklahoma. That one sent up all kinds of red flags, but his 50% pay pal deposit went through and a couple of days later I met him at an Ihop just off the interstate where he handed me the rest in cash and we both drove away happy.

When I was selling my old sailboat I couldn't get any legitimate interest. Every CL hit was either a foreign scammer or a random "will you take X dollars" text message with no response after my reply. I tried for months to sell and even sold it twice on ebay to buyers who never showed up to several scheduled appointments. I finally decided to donate it to Boat Angle, but I ended up doing one last attempt on CL. Within a couple of hours of listing, a local number texts me and says it's exactly what he's looking for and is OK with the price but could only meet me after he got off work and he works evenings. It felt a bit shady but I agreed anyway. I know it wasn't the smartest thing since KC is the 5th most dangerous city in America and all, but I met him at a secluded storage facility outside of town at 10:00 PM. He left his truck running and his door open where I could see the Glock 9mm stuffed in the door panel. He did a brief walkaround, never even looked inside, and said "I'll take it" as he walked back to his open door. That's when I said "I see you show up to a CL sale the same way I do". He says "huh?", and I pointed to his piece. He laughs and says "Yeah, can't be too careful" to which I replied "I completely agree" as I lifted my T-shirt slightly to expose the pistol in my waistband. We chuckled and gave each other a mutual nod of respect, he handed me a wad of cash and drove off with my boat.
 
Jun 25, 2004
1,109
Corsair F24 Mk1 003 San Francisco Bay, CA
You really just have to use your intuition. Most scams are pretty easy to spot but it's easy to mistake a legitimate buyer for a scammer as well. Absolutely everything I have ever listed on CL has gotten at least one scam attempt. The ballsiest one was on a pontoon I had renovated and was asking 7 grand for. Had a party who wanted it sight unseen for asking price, but they actually called me rather than the standard broken english email so I thought it was legit. Had a handful of correspondences with them and it was made crystal clear that this was a cash only sale. They claimed they were coming from northern Iowa but both of the phone numbers they had called me from were from Saint Louis (I'm in KC). They showed up on a Sunday evening with Indiana plates and a blank money order that was clearly counterfeit. They got very upset when I wouldn't accept it, then insisted I follow them to their bank where they could give me a cashier's check instead. Hmmm, still not cash, and remember it's a Sunday evening and they are supposedly from out of state, yeah, not gonna happen.

Another time I was selling a 15 year old pickup with over 350,000 miles on it. Within 30 minutes of listing a guy emails me and says he wants it for asking price but he's in Chicago on business for a few days and would wire some money to hold it and then would pick it up on his way back to Oklahoma. That one sent up all kinds of red flags, but his 50% pay pal deposit went through and a couple of days later I met him at an Ihop just off the interstate where he handed me the rest in cash and we both drove away happy.

When I was selling my old sailboat I couldn't get any legitimate interest. Every CL hit was either a foreign scammer or a random "will you take X dollars" text message with no response after my reply. I tried for months to sell and even sold it twice on ebay to buyers who never showed up to several scheduled appointments. I finally decided to donate it to Boat Angle, but I ended up doing one last attempt on CL. Within a couple of hours of listing, a local number texts me and says it's exactly what he's looking for and is OK with the price but could only meet me after he got off work and he works evenings. It felt a bit shady but I agreed anyway. I know it wasn't the smartest thing since KC is the 5th most dangerous city in America and all, but I met him at a secluded storage facility outside of town at 10:00 PM. He left his truck running and his door open where I could see the Glock 9mm stuffed in the door panel. He did a brief walkaround, never even looked inside, and said "I'll take it" as he walked back to his open door. That's when I said "I see you show up to a CL sale the same way I do". He says "huh?", and I pointed to his piece. He laughs and says "Yeah, can't be too careful" to which I replied "I completely agree" as I lifted my T-shirt slightly to expose the pistol in my waistband. We chuckled and gave each other a mutual nod of respect, he handed me a wad of cash and drove off with my boat.
In my town, the police department has a designated section of their parking lot outside the station with lights, facing a big window. That’s the town meeting place for online sellers and buyers to meet.
 
Jun 25, 2004
1,109
Corsair F24 Mk1 003 San Francisco Bay, CA
Glad you all know better than to be horn swallowed.
Never heard it that way. Must be a local thing in KY

horn·swog·gle
/ˈhôrnˌswäɡəl/
verb
INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN
past tense: hornswoggled; past participle: hornswoggled
  1. get the better of (someone) by cheating or deception.
    "you mean to say you were hornswoggled?"
 
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