I can run a genset, engine or AC with fresh water if I stack pallets and get a 55-gallon drum of water near the waterline. The only time I've run across an unexplainable list was when the steel shot used as the ballast in a keel, rusted solid when the boat (built in Taiwan) had an empty tank on one side for over a year. That was a hard one to work out. But yes, I'll give you that one, if you think its that common, and a serious problem.How about running the engine, genset, A/C? We looked at a boat locally that had a really severe list to starboard which the owner couldn't explain. Would have never noticed if the boat hadn't been in the water.
I agree with this. Our boat is on the hard in a yard where we get two free round trips in and out of the water per year as part of our yearly yard fees. When we sell the boat I'd expect a potential buyer to pay the round trip in and out. It is only $150 the last I checked. If they buy the boat I would gladly refund the $150... At the most, you could make some agreement that the owner pays iF you do buy the boat....
No, especially the tow fee. If I was seller, I wouldn't be happy about the marina's charges. It doesn't really matter who pays these fees out of pocket, the fees basically get balanced out against the purchase price, and I'd guess that the Seller could eventually get burned. As a buyer, aren't you going to add up these fees in your head and then negotiate a purchase price accordingly? I guess if you (Buyer) get taken by surprise over the fees after already negotiating the purchase price, you'd feel burned, but you entered the deal and you can back out if you don't like it (probably at a price). When it is apparent that you are going to back out, won't the Seller go to his marina and complain that their fees aren't doing him any favors? Maybe somebody will move off their position. That's usually how a deal gets done. If you gag over the fees, but eventually accept them, then I guess you flinch first. Nobody enters into these things without free will and the ability to walk away.Is $16 a foot reasonable or Is that too high? The marina also changed us a $85 tow fee from the launch site to the slip 10 meters away.
Do these prices seem normal to anyone?
I would avoid using a broker to begin with but if you do, your buyers agent gets paid the same amount whether the sellers agent is the same or not. The broker will get paid double so there may be some negotiating you can do there. Yes, the buyers broker makes a commission on the sale and is a conflict of interest but that's true of any salesperson. I say shoot the middlemen and work directly with an owner when possible.Does $16 a foot seem high, reasonable or low.
It seems high to me but this is the reason I'm asking.
Part of my question regarding the brokers is reasonable, should I expect this broker to have my best interest of the boat is listed by the same brokage company?
I don't see how because in my mind it seems like there is a bit of a conflict of interest.
If you were in business, how much would you charge to pay an employee to use the company boat and equipment worth thousands of $$ to move someones non-running boat 10 meters? I'd say $85 is pretty reasonable.Is $16 a foot reasonable or Is that too high? The marina also changed us a $85 tow fee from the launch site to the slip 10 meters away.
Do these prices seem normal to anyone?
One can do all of the counter offering one wants, it’s up the the seller to accept the offer. Yes the seller wants to sell the boat but if he doesn’t accept your offer you can be in the hole for a lot of money especially at these prices.No, especially the tow fee. If I was seller, I wouldn't be happy about the marina's charges. It doesn't really matter who pays these fees out of pocket, the fees basically get balanced out against the purchase price, and I'd guess that the Seller could eventually get burned. As a buyer, aren't you going to add up these fees in your head and then negotiate a purchase price accordingly? I guess if you (Buyer) get taken by surprise over the fees after already negotiating the purchase price, you'd feel burned, but you entered the deal and you can back out if you don't like it (probably at a price). When it is apparent that you are going to back out, won't the Seller go to his marina and complain that their fees aren't doing him any favors? Maybe somebody will move off their position. That's usually how a deal gets done. If you gag over the fees, but eventually accept them, then I guess you flinch first. Nobody enters into these things without free will and the ability to walk away.
I assume you also have the ability to walk away. If you accept the fees, then the boat must be worth it to you. That's the nature of all transactions. It sounds like the fees took you by surprise, as if disclosure was incomplete. I'd be unhappy about that, too. After the deal has been struck, are they tacking on costs that were unanticipated?One can do all of the counter offering one wants, it’s up the the seller to accept the offer. Yes the seller wants to sell the boat but if he doesn’t accept your offer you can be in the hole for a lot of money especially at these prices.
I don't think so. I have two boats. I'm not going to recommission and launch the one that's for sale unless a prospective buyer wants a sea trial.a boat for sail in July that is not in the water seems like a bit of a red flag
Yes, and more, but your comment - apropos what?Sails
Running rigging
Engine
Raw water system
Fresh water system
Through hulls
AP
instruments
Steering system
A/C
GENSET
standing rigging
Bilge
Sailing performance
Why a boat has to be in the water if you want me to buy it.Yes, and more, but your comment - apropos what?
Oh, right, agreed.Why a boat has to be in the water if you want me to buy it.