Fridge issue question

wilf

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Jan 25, 2017
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I turned on the fridge and can hear the motor running but after a half day of running its still not cold at all, any idea what i need to do to fix it? Also the fridge is wired straight from the battery not on a switch also not sure either if the fridge works on 12 volts only or mains when its connected, i assume its the original one that came with it, the boats a 1987 oday 322
 
Dec 25, 2000
6,052
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
Seems time to have a fridge guy look at your system to see whether the compressor is coming on in addition to the running fan and that the system has the right refrigerant charge. If your system is original, like ours, it uses R12 freon, which is still available, but a bit pricey. Being wired from the battery means it operates on 12v DC.
 

wilf

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Jan 25, 2017
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oday 25 oday 25 long beach
Seems time to have a fridge guy look at your system to see whether the compressor is coming on in addition to the running fan and that the system has the right refrigerant charge. If your system is original, like ours, it uses R12 freon, which is still available, but a bit pricey. Being wired from the battery means it operates on 12v DC.
Thanks Will contact a fridge guy see what he thinks
 

capta

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Jun 4, 2009
5,072
Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
Really, you haven't given us enough info. Is your system water cooled and run a water pump? What gas does it use and what system is it? It seems you don't even have a circuit breaker in the circuit, which is EXTREMELY dangerous.
As above call a reputable refer tech in your area and make sure you can answer all these questions before he is done fixing the system.
Do not run it if it is out of gas, as the gas carries the lubrication for the compressor.
 

wilf

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Jan 25, 2017
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oday 25 oday 25 long beach
go to Richard Kollmann's website. He advises that 99% of fridge problems are electrical.

http://www.kollmann-marine.com/Refrigeration/index.php?topic=110.0

Your fan may not be working. Your module may be wonky. capta's right, not enough info from you. What unit do you have?
On the wiring board controler it says danfoss 102N3030 thats all i see, it has a fan that works and a large metal done that i assume is the compressor? That seems to be on (buzzing)
 

wilf

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Jan 25, 2017
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oday 25 oday 25 long beach
I had the fridge recharged and it worked for 10 mins then stopped , theres a beepung noise every few minutes and the fan and compressor go on and off, when i find the wires from the battery the pos was connected to one batteey and the neg to a different one, when i checked the voltage at the fridge it shows around 28 v but if i connect both the leads to the same battery it shows 13.5v but nothing happens, no beeping but no fan or compressor comes on, the fridge guy gave me a spare module box to try but same thing happens with that , anyone have any suggestions ??
 
Dec 29, 2008
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Treworgy 65' LOA Custom Steel Pilothouse Staysail Ketch St. Croix, Virgin Islands
Sounding like a 24V fridge.
 

wilf

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Jan 25, 2017
124
oday 25 oday 25 long beach
Dare I ask if you Googled?
Ive googled problems with fridges, its a cold machine, adler-barbour one, its strange as the guy who recharged it said the problem may be too low of voltage he said he checked and it was around 11 to 12 but when i checked it was showing 28 to 30 i cant figure out the battery situation i have 3 of them, ones new and 2 that i was told were 6v each joined together one batery ( the new 12v one i put in ) shows 28v the other 2 show around 13v each, the battery switch when on 1 works everything ,lights , starts engine, water pump etc same if its on 2 that works everything too? I would like to figure out how i can have 1 battery just for starting so i dont run it too low to crank the engine
 
May 24, 2004
7,213
CC 30 South Florida
The reason it may be directly connected to the batteries and not to the electrical panel is that it may be a 24V unit which can be attained by connecting two 12V batteries in series. You may need to get the make and model number to properly determine what you are dealing with. It looks that some PO may have found a 24V refrigerator or had a step up transformer that went bad and just rigged it to work without safeguard considerations. Is it cooling? It may have lost all the charge in those 10 minutes. Honestly does not sound like fixing and keeping the unit is worth the cost of properly wiring it. Are the two batteries dedicated to run that fridge? Sounds like an ice cooler will do a better job until you can get a replacement. Sounds like the fridge guy may have run away from an ant pile.
 

wilf

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Jan 25, 2017
124
oday 25 oday 25 long beach
The reason it may be directly connected to the batteries and not to the electrical panel is that it may be a 24V unit which can be attained by connecting two 12V batteries in series. You may need to get the make and model number to properly determine what you are dealing with. It looks that some PO may have found a 24V refrigerator or had a step up transformer that went bad and just rigged it to work without safeguard considerations. Is it cooling? It may have lost all the charge in those 10 minutes. Honestly does not sound like fixing and keeping the unit is worth the cost of properly wiring it. Are the two batteries dedicated to run that fridge? Sounds like an ice cooler will do a better job until you can get a replacement. Sounds like the fridge guy may have run away from an ant pile.
The guy who was recomended by someone came and recharged it and charged me $200 he also gave me a different control box to try but that didnt work either, he should have known if it was a 24v or not, strange thing is he said supply to fridge was showing around 12v but when he left i checked and it was around 30v?
 
Jul 23, 2009
926
Beneteau 31 Oceanis Grand Lake, Oklahoma
Something just doesn't sound right with your voltages. Check the supply voltage with the shore power turned off.

Some units have a 110vac - 24vdc module. On the unit I just installed the ac module is optional. My fridge always runs on 12vdc but if I had installed the 110vac module the compressor would run on 24vdc while connected to shore power.

My dock neighbor tried new control units & recharged his system. He spent lots of time and money and in the end his batteries were bad, and I suspect his charger was too.
 

viper

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Jul 31, 2016
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Hunter 380 Cape Coral, Fl
Repairing anything but the minor for something that old... is going to end up more expensive than installing new.

You are at $200 now..... plus your time.

I would de install it, give it a salute for its long service and a proper burial.

Regards,

Viper
 
Nov 18, 2013
171
Catalina 310 Campbell River
I had problems with my unit cutting in and out after a few days on the hook. Found that when I had fully charged batteries no problem soon as they dropped a little now a problem, what I did was increased the wire size to #4 that's a overkill but then I don't have to worry about line voltage drop like the 12 that was installed. After the change out unit ran without a problem.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,336
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
he also gave me a different control box to try but that didnt work either, he should have known if it was a 24v or not, strange thing is he said supply to fridge was showing around 12v
I would de install it, give it a salute for its long service and a proper burial.
wilf, would you please, please, please buy a basic boat electrical book? Charlie Wing's is excellent. Please. If YOU don't know what someone is doing to your boat, you'd better learn what "that" is before you let anyone touch it again. You don't have to know how to do it yourself, that's why there are technicians to do it for you. But if you were redoing your kitchen, you and your wife would want to choose the countertops and cabinets yourself, wouldn't you, and not let it up to the contractor? Man, please learn 12V, 24V and 120V - at least the differences between them. It is very rare to have 24V system anything on a 25 foot boat in the USA. None of us was born an electrician. Unless you're an artist, you CAN learn this stuff.

Viper might be right, but only because something got fried.
 
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Jan 18, 2016
782
Catalina 387 Dana Point
Wilf is local to me, I've offered to go help him out if he wants.
On the other thread it was deduced that he does have a 12v system (2 gc2s) .