What kind of boat do I have? Help!!

Sep 3, 2016
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Unknown 17 Youghal
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Hi new to the forum and to sailing but done some work for a guy and my payment was although unplanned a 17 foot trailer sailer the guy I got it off diddnt know much about it but it's 17ft with a fin keel and 22ft mast and is British build any help would be appriciated thanks guys n gals
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SFS

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Aug 18, 2015
2,092
Currently Boatless Okinawa
Go to the back of the boat, on the outside of the hull and look for the Hull Identification Number (HIN). If you were standing on the ground looking up at the back of the boat, it would probably be in the upper right corner. It is embossed (molded) into the skin of the hull. The number is a mixture of letters and numbers, with the first few characters likely letters. Write it down, bring it home, then go to this site and plug in the whole number:

http://hindecoder.com/

You should get manufacturer, year made, etc. Did you get a title, to either the boat or trailer, or both? A bill of sale would be helpful too, for both the boat and the trailer.
 
Sep 3, 2016
11
Unknown 17 Youghal
Have bill of sale no title boat was abandoned n no numbers transom is totally smooth sail number is all I have
 

druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
I'm afraid I don't know the boat. But looking at the pics...
The boat looks like it MIGHT be seaworthy, at least with some cleaning up. The trailer, not so much. And with a boat like that, especially with the fin keel, the trailer is kinda important. I'd walk away.

druid
 
Sep 3, 2016
11
Unknown 17 Youghal
Got it already boat is in great shape have had it looked at only needs paint n fittings trailer is not great but I'll have it sorted soon just want to find out what make n model it is
 
Mar 1, 2012
2,182
1961 Rhodes Meridian 25 Texas coast
Go to the back of the boat, on the outside of the hull and look for the Hull Identification Number (HIN). If you were standing on the ground looking up at the back of the boat, it would probably be in the upper right corner. It is embossed (molded) into the skin of the hull. The number is a mixture of letters and numbers, with the first few characters likely letters. Write it down, bring it home, then go to this site and plug in the whole number:

http://hindecoder.com/

You should get manufacturer, year made, etc. Did you get a title, to either the boat or trailer, or both? A bill of sale would be helpful too, for both the boat and the trailer.

boats built before 1972 don't have HIN 's
 
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Sep 3, 2016
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Unknown 17 Youghal
Thanks TSBB2 it's a good lead ha ha now t find what make n type she is ha ha
 
Sep 3, 2016
11
Unknown 17 Youghal
Oh I know I done around 300euro worth of work for him so took the boat instead of cash he just wants a days sailing n a beer when I get it on the water
 
Sep 3, 2016
11
Unknown 17 Youghal
God no ha ha had a hull articifer look it over in great Nick just needs paint and he even said himself it's worth more then 300 alone and the trailer is worth a few euro too even if it's just scrap value
 
Sep 3, 2016
11
Unknown 17 Youghal
I've emailed Dylan Winters of Keep Turning Left. See if he can tell the make.
Thanks TSBB I really appriciate it asked people here n nobody seems to know except it was in a field for 5 years and prior to that used for fishing with no sails just ran on a 8hp outboard sails are faded but perfect otherwise lines where rotted but got some braided line so I'll splice and whip them to sort them out
 
Jun 8, 2004
3,009
Catalina 320 Dana Point
Oh I know I done around 300euro worth of work for him so took the boat instead of cash he just wants a days sailing n a beer when I get it on the water
What a nice guy ? Post a pic and I'll buy you a beer "when you get it on the water".
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
Well, you've got moxy to see that boat as being in great shape and just needing paint and fittings. Good for you. Anyone who sees the potential in things deserves to find that potential. I do not know what kind of boat she is, but I applaud you for imagining her in her glory, on the water and sailing.

Out of curiosity... Why do you want to know her pedigree? I can imagine some answers, but I am interested in yours.
 
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Sep 3, 2016
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Unknown 17 Youghal
Well, you've got moxy to see that boat as being in great shape and just needing paint and fittings! Good for you. Anyone who sees the potential in things deserves to find that potential. I do not know what kind of boat she is, but I applaud you for imagining her in her glory, on the water , and sailing.
Thank you agprice22 I hate when people just throw things away when they are broken or in disrepair nothing was wrong with this boat sure I already have paint so case of waiting for the good weather But living in Ireland I could be waiting awhile
 

Kermit

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Jul 31, 2010
5,722
AquaCat 12.5 17342 Wateree Lake, SC
I've seen worse than that shown here and folks gave great encouragement. The boat can't be too bad. It made it all the way across the North Atlantic without sinking. Could White Star Line say that about their shiny new passenger ship?
 
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Unknown 17 Youghal
@agprice22 I'd love to hear your answers and very simply to see what people have done to them inside and out my plan would be to get it rigged to sail solo n try go around Ireland in it and teach my daughter to sail when she is old enough and I also need make n model for ordering parts if I need to and for insurance
 

repawn

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Jul 28, 2014
73
Oday 22 Milwaukee
Hi - You have a bit of work ahead of you and prepare yourself to spend a bit of money - Personally, I would think of painting as the last thing I would do. I purchased an Oday 22 for $500 2 years ago - it took me a full year to just get in the water and another year to get it ready enough to be on a mooring. My trailer, which I think of just barely ok, is light years ahead of yours - my boat came with a lot of "bits" and most of them were useless. As long as you have a mast, boom, rudder and tiller you are at a good starting point. You will NEED new standing rigging - not sure how much that will cost on your side of the pond - but on a small boat like that here expect about $400 - I would also replace all running rigging - the boat hasn't been sailed in a some time so you may not even have any - as long as you have the hardware the line won't be too expensive but new mainsheet and jib sheets may be ~ 75-100 plus new main and jib halyards for another 75 -100. I noticed you are missing the rubrail - so go ahead and budget another 150 for new rubrail. The chainplates should be checked - I would remove them - make sure the core isn't wet - then rebed them if they aren't too corroded. Also check where they are attached below - this is a safety item and shouldn't be ignored. I ended up replacing every bolt and screw on the topside of my boat and had to repair a fair amount of wet core. I spent 100+ on new stainless bolts and screws - then a ~ 60 on butyl tape for rebedding. It was a ton of work but totally worth it to have a water tight topside. One thing that will keep you going is doing a thorough cleaning of everything - it just feels better when the boat doesn't have all the mildew stains on it. Make sure that keel is well supported before climbing up there and doing work.

It is fully doable to restore the boat - and frankly - the type of boat really won't matter for the repair - look at the size rigging you may have or that other 17 footers have and base your purchases off of that - heck a rigging supplier will be able to help you with that as well - Once all the basics are done and you are able to sail her safely without any water ingress and she seems seaworthy - that is the time to paint her. Just my two cents :)

as an aside - I hope it has sails - if not you are in for the worst sticker shock - if you do - they may be in rough shape - that is ok for a season - but consider replacing or trying a place the rehabs old sail - it makes sailing more enjoyable when the sails perform as they are supposed to - best of luck!