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Jan 10, 2016
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Islander Wayfarer 37 Sloop Key West
It has been so many times I have searched through very long threads trying to find an answer to something that It gave me the idea if I ask a question in a post that turns into a long thread why not, once I've gotten my answer, go back and edit the first post with the answer. A reader researching through threads then has the option to take the answer and run or read the thread to follow the discussion.
Is this already done? Is it a good idea?
 
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Aug 17, 2013
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not bad, I like it, but sometimes it's worth it to read the entire posts for more detail
 
Jan 10, 2016
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Islander Wayfarer 37 Sloop Key West
I agree, a lot can be learned by following some discussions but also a lot of time can be saved when you just need a simple answer.
 
Jun 28, 2016
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Hunter 23.5 Paupack, PA
JH - I like it, very courteous thing to do. Some forum architectures allow the author of an OP to mark a post as the best answer, which moves it to the top. But it is amazing what you can learn down in the weeds, in the information you don't want, that is - until you want it. I know it's supposed to be, "Field the ball, ignore the chickens." Fortunately, this forum's search is excellent. It brings back the ball and the chickens - lol.
 

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Jun 1, 2004
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Well... then it would not be a "discussion" group anymore, would it. It would be more of a Wikipedia kind of forum.. Also.... in most cases there is more than one correct answer... IMHO a follow up comment by original poster would be appropriate in chronological order... but post a link to this comment would seem courteous without spoiling the adventure of following the thread.

I will say that I've seen a number of folks jump into a thread without reading the original post, or reading the entire thread itself... not sure how that can be controlled..
 

Apex

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Jun 19, 2013
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I like that idea as well. ...so what is the recommended format? For background and additional information, of course the reader can continue down

20160728 edit <solution>: personal solution is to add dated edit at the end of the initial post
 
Jan 6, 2010
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Jim,

Good idea pal. I've also thought along similar lines with this:

How about we start a new forum called something like "Questions & Quick Answers" or so.
The thread rules could be that only direct answers are allowed to the original question. All subsequent posts have to center on the question & not deviate. The rule is to keep it direct with no going off on tangents, as some threads take on a life of their own that detours from the point of focus.

In this fashion, threads will be shorter & answers easier to find without wading thru page after page. I think alot of members would be onboard with a format like this especially if they are in the middle of solving a problem/question & need quick answers.
Just a thought..........

CR
 

Ward H

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Nov 7, 2011
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Also.... in most cases there is more than one correct answer... IMHO a follow up comment by original poster would be appropriate in chronological order... but post a link to this comment would seem courteous without spoiling the adventure of following the thread.
Yeah, I like to see a follow up by the original thread starter. I know I don't always do it but I try to post an update for final solution that worked, especially when a thread had a lot of good suggestions that contributed to my solving my issue.
I do wonder if it should be a new post to an older thread or better to start a new thread and post a link to the original?
 
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Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
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Oh....... you mean we should have an "FAQ" column???? An FAQ would eliminate a lot of the content(not sure that's good)... but it might be a blessing if it gets rid of the Theoretical Hull Speed questions:banghead::ass:

All kidding aside... I think any good discussion should have some kind of resolution by the original poster... if only for the purpose of allowing the thread to die honorably. I find my self curious how the poster resolves his problem.. so I appreciate the follow up comments.

I think it's funny when a thread has been dead or resolved for a long time, and some one posts a comment out of the blue... They obviously don't read "ask all sailors".. but rather the individual columns. In this case, a note that this thread question has been resolved might be appropriate... but heck.. then we couldn't say :lastweek:
 
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Jan 10, 2016
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Islander Wayfarer 37 Sloop Key West
Precisely! Are we not human beings? Or are we just an army of chicken hating sailbots...? I say, "Ignore the ball - and eat the chickens!" And mark THIS as the correct answer!
I must be the most inexperienced sailor on here, I have no idea what the above statement means.
 
Sep 8, 2014
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Catalina 22 Swing Keel San Diego
Basically the same concept is done on user submitted Q&A websites; Readers can 'vote' on the best or most helpful answer which is the posted in italics directly below the original question at the top. You can still read chronologically through the entire discussion if you choose to do so.
I can't remember which website does it, maybe ask.com or yahoo answers, maybe all of them do it?
 
Jun 28, 2016
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Hunter 23.5 Paupack, PA
I must be the most inexperienced sailor on here, I have no idea what the above statement means.
Cap'n Blow Hard here. Apologies - 'tis about distractions. The OP was inquiring how we feel about the meanderings in posts that obscure or hinder access to the eventual answer. These "distractions" often take on a life of their own, sometimes even shifting the focus of the entire thread.

I once heard a man remark (memory fails who, apologies), "Field the ball, ignore the chicken", in reference to the distraction he faced as a young lad, learning to play ball, when a chicken appeared on the field. I thought it was hilarious, and it just stuck with me. It's my mantra in meetings.

But here I want it both ways. I too like the idea of finding answers quickly (the ball), but not at the expense of a demoralizing mandate like having to go back and add a link in my OP (although I'm grateful to all who do). But I also like reading the distractions (the chickens), because well, the ship is new to me. I might not yet know what I don't know, and the non-sequiturs are a treasure of information and hilarity.

My blow hard solution is to add a "Vote as best answer" button, so all members can weigh in. Then rev the search results to move the winners to the top. The beauty here is that it works for chicken lovers too. You can either scoop the "correct" answer right off the top and be about your merry way, or skip over that twaddle and sink to the murky depths.

For sure, we should not repurpose the Like button as a voting button. We like replies for a variety of reasons, especially when they are clearly the wrong answer (like stapling up the Romex to your hull to tidy up the wiring - har har).

Regarding the idea of a another forum for "correct" answers...
I don't know how to pick the correct head these days.

Regarding FAQs...
Not a bad idea if multiple answers can be allowed. [Edit/ skip over this next bit of twaddle] Since no two ships are alike, there might not be a single correct answer. Even ones that come from the same shipyard in the same year can be different, not to mention buyer options like motor size, cabin layout, deck hardware, etc. Then over a score of years, you have to resolve all the previous owner modifications. [\Edit: thank you] In the end, it might be another source of fruitless endeavor and time wasted.

G
 
Jan 10, 2016
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Islander Wayfarer 37 Sloop Key West
Aye Capt GG, that be a bit easier to follow and I get yer gist and I like the gist of it. It remembers me of something similar to a narrative from Captains Courageous or some sich works.
 
May 17, 2004
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Basically the same concept is done on user submitted Q&A websites; Readers can 'vote' on the best or most helpful answer which is the posted in italics directly below the original question at the top. You can still read chronologically through the entire discussion if you choose to do so.
I can't remember which website does it, maybe ask.com or yahoo answers, maybe all of them do it?
Sounds like what sites like Stack Overflow do for computer / programming questions. Honestly though that's not what I'm usually looking for here. I think the difference is that if you're trying to get something done in a hurry (like for a job or a chore) you want a quick answer. But for the majority of us i think boating is a hobby that we want to spend time involved in, so the discussion works better, at least for me.
 
Jan 10, 2016
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Islander Wayfarer 37 Sloop Key West
DavidaSailor26, I agree. The more I think about it the overwhelming majority of posts on this site elicit a discussion. I do like the idea though for other forums I go on looking for specific answers for outboard or auto repair and it can still apply to some things on this site but, as for this forum, I suppose the conversation is a little bit more like the wind we talk about.
 

Ward H

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As I was posting my successful solution to a sail trim problem I thought about this thread so I went back to find the posts that led to my successful solution. Several posts were very helpful and taught me about issues that could have been my problem and how to check my sail trim controls.
It was post #26 that led me to the real issue and post #31 that pointed me in the right direction to a solution far better than I was leaning towards.
Another thread I started asking about main sheet tackle didn't give me a yes or no answer but gave me good ideas. The discussion also expanded to show others what is available in main sheet tackle.
So for me I will wade through the many off topic posts to find the ones of interest.
 
Jun 28, 2016
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Hunter 23.5 Paupack, PA
Sounds like what sites like Stack Overflow do for computer / programming questions.
Ha! Another embedded code banger? I don't live at Stack Overflow, I'm mainly an AVR Freak. I've been thinking along the lines of an instrument package at the mast head (wind vector, gps, temp, baro, mag. compass, and cameras, wifi'd (or BT) to the cockpit, depending on power). I know this has all been done already, but you know...sorta fun to roll yer' own. What platform are you working? I guess you should PM me to keep this thread free from all that evil embedded speak.
 
Nov 3, 2009
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Sabre 36 Marblehead
So here is a FAQ sure to overflow any stack...
What varnish should I use?
Sorry, but had to throw that in.
Jim