Removal of engine

[shazam]

I'm afraid I must do a complete rebuild on my Universal Diesel 5411. Any advice on how to remove it from the boat? Does the island cabinet need to be removed?
My plan is to send it to a reputable diesel shop to completely rebuild it. Any suggested vendor(s) in the Texas area?
Emmett aka shazam

 

[Benny17441]

What year model is the h27? Boat's OEM engines were Renault and Yanmar, perhaps a picture of the installation could elicit some suggestions.

 

[shemandr]

Search the archives. I think there is a video demonstration from moderator MaineSail on removal of an engine. He makes it look easy. If it's someone else I'm sorry. That's what I remember.

 

[kimelmore]

The galley cabinet assembly isn't too hard to remove and gives great access to the engine compartment. There are two screws that are difficult to find in the port side cabinet behind the stove but once you get those out the cabinet pulls out and then the engine can be lifted using a "come along" with a homebuilt A frame and lifted right out.

 

[shazam]

Big update...........my profile says I have a Hunter 27. I used to.....but have recently purchased a Catalina 30....with diesel problems. I would update my Profile...if I could figure out how to do it.
Meanwhile.......I need to remove the universal....and the diesel in the Catalina 30 is located in the galley center cabinetwork. My question is now: do I need to remove the center galley cabinet, in my Catalina 30, to remove the Universal diesel?

 

[The Garbone]

Yes, pretty easy to pull the galley bar. I stand ours on end in the salon. Just the fiddle board, two screws behind the slider on the kitchen and some screws underneath the sinks were you disconnect.the drains and water hoses at the forward edge. The cabinet slides starboard then can be lifted. It is a one man job.

Even if your not going to pull the diesel removing the bar makes engine work much easier.

If you use the boom to pull the motor have the halyard take the load and not the boom itself.

When we moved our motor we put it on a half pallet and rented a uhaul trailer for the day ($14). Low load height I your friend.

 

[Jim 5757]

Can't comment on engine replacement, but changing your boat info is easy...just click on your login name at upper right and select 'personal details'. Scroll down to boat info, edit as desired and click on "save changes" at the bottom of the page.

 

[jeepbluetj]

Yup - remove the galley and hoist it straight out the companionway. One of the nicer things about the C-30 is that the engine isn't jammed way back with a V drive like in some other boats (Like a C-27, which is horrible to work on if it's an inboard)

 

[druid]

Although I haven't done it for a C30, I've lifted a few engines out and here are my thoughts:
1. make up a stand of some sort out of 2x6 or whatever, with casters on it. Pull the engine and drop it on the stand. (make sure the stand will go through the companionway!)
2. You can use a comealong, but they're a real pain to LOWER things with. You might consider buying a chain hoist - needs to be able to lift at LEAST 500 lb.
3. Although I've never done it, I don't see any reason not to use the boom. Although as Garbone says, use the halyard to carry the weight. Depending on your system, you MAY even be able to use your mainsheet to pick up the engine.
4. Pulling the engine itself is usually pretty easy (although getting the lag bolts out of the engine mounts can be a pain). The hardest part is usually getting the prop coupling off.
5. Don't forget to replace the engine mounts while you're at it! And check the stringers for rot and repair/replace as necessary.

druid

 

[bpratt1152]

I have a C-30 1983 with similar issues. I choose to purchase a rebuilt M5414 for replacing the M5411. Due to the other equipment on the engine being 33 years old (as well). But yes, you have to remove the galley cabinet to access the two large hatch boards (that are under said cabinet) that provide access to the engine. It is not too daunting a task. The screws are in a 1x1 oak bracket at the bottom of the cabinet And two inside the sliding door cabinet on the far port side above the stove. These are the screws that are most difficult to find. We will be using a block and tackle hung from the boom, with the main halyard as support for the boom. The M5411 weighs about 250 lbs (I'm told). I just removed my own cabinet in preparation for the new(ish) engine . I purchased it from Schooner Bay Marina, WI. Good Luck to ya.

 

[pencema]

I've done it twice on my Cat 30, with the Yanmar YSE-12 - pretty heavy. Remove the galley cabinet and disconnect everything from the engine. Rig a come-along from the boom. Use the main halyard to support the end of the boom. Jack the engine as high as possible. Rig a rope loop from the engine to the boom, long enough to slide it a foot or to aft along the boom. Lower the engine until the rope loop takes the weight and it hangs vertically. The engine will have moved aft. Move the come-along aft and jack the engine up again. Repeat this process to walk the engine back to the end of the boom. Rig a control line to the boom and swing it outboard, like a crane. Lower the engine to whatever you want to set it on.

It's a one-man job, but you'll be busy! BTW, my boat was on a cradle on land when I did this. In the water, it's trickier because of heeling.

 

[shazam]

I'm starting a new thread that will detail the removal & rebuild of my diesel. See:http://forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php?threads/rebuild-of-my-catalina-30s-diesel.179736/

 

[George Da Porge]

I had a heck of a time removing my galley section over the engine. It wasn't until I had it removed that I realized the stove was the problem. Galley installed first, stove second. Galley counter was sliced to make space for stove trim piece. Now stove trim piece has notch in it! Other than that, removal was a piece of cake!

 

[Elysium_Van_Isl]

I had a heck of a time removing my galley section over the engine. It wasn't until I had it removed that I realized the stove was the problem. Galley installed first, stove second. Galley counter was sliced to make space for stove trim piece. Now stove trim piece has notch in it! Other than that, removal was a piece of cake!

Haha George - You've got guts admitting that mistake to the world.....
(Took me almost an HOUR to realize why my galley wouldn't budge! "WTH, Everyone said this was so easy!!" Thank God I didn't tear off the stove's gimbal slot when I was reefing on the galley with all my strength)

 

[George Da Porge]

I must publish my mistakes to help other C30 owners!! Rest assured, I never uttered "heck" while I was removing galley!!!